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People and lifts!

114 replies

PearsandAlmonds · 16/07/2026 15:59

What is it about lifts that brings the worst out in people?

We have a woman who is currently interning for a short period of time in our department (in her thirties - not a teen).

While I don't directly work in the area she's in, her manager got in contact with me because we live in the same area and asked if I could bring her in for about a month, six weeks at the most, until she is moved on to the next department in her internship. She's been waiting at the end of my road every morning, and I have been picking her up with absolutely no issues for about a month. She is on time, always ready to go. Perfectly pleasant.

I am away for work for a few days, so I mentioned this to her in advance and also let her manager know in passing that alternate arrangements need to be made (as he thought the 6 weeks were fully covered)

She turned up this morning, knocked on my front door, and when my DH answered, said that she expected that 'someone' would drive her in because I was away.

He laughingly said, 'What, on the handlebars of my bicycle?' She got very affronted at that. (He was dressed in cycle gear, to be clear, and had a bike out in the hallway ready to go - as he was on the way to his job)

She then just stood there and asked what he was going to do about it (not aggressively but obviously expecting him to solve or do something) - he said 'I am sure you will work it out' and cycled off

Who does that?!?

OP posts:
Tablesandchairs23 · 20/07/2026 13:12

TalkToTheHand123 · 18/07/2026 11:02

Could DP not have booked her a taxi on his tab?

You expect him to pay for a strangers taxi 😂

TalkToTheHand123 · 20/07/2026 13:18

Tablesandchairs23 · 20/07/2026 13:12

You expect him to pay for a strangers taxi 😂

He could claim it back from the wife if the wife had an arrangement.

Tablesandchairs23 · 20/07/2026 13:18

This woman us delusional! Love your husbands response. That manager was cheeky to ask you for a lift in the first place.

PearsandAlmonds · 20/07/2026 13:21

Delphiniumandlupins · 20/07/2026 13:11

I love the phrase "pathologically passive" it seems a step up (or perhaps just a drift away) from weaponised incompetence. I know that leaving gaps in a conversation can encourage others to speak but never thought to extend it to all areas of life.

Good shout; I assume it's from a similar mindset as weaponised incompetence, as ultimately it is a behaviour formed in selfishness with a view to task reduction/abducation.

OP posts:
7238SM · 20/07/2026 13:32

TalkToTheHand123 · 20/07/2026 13:18

He could claim it back from the wife if the wife had an arrangement.

The OP wasn't even being paid a penny in petrol money! Did you read the thread?

NoCommentingFromNowOn · 20/07/2026 13:44

However, this initial part of the internship is focused entirely on introductions. There is no requirement for formal feedback, and when he asked to provide some, he was advised it was not necessary at this stage, as it is a tour of what we do, our working areas, and our facilities, rather than the practical placement stage, which will come later and require formal feedback

So she’s continuing? No one can say ‘you’re a bit crap’ at this stage?

Paganpentacle · 20/07/2026 13:52

CurlewKate · 18/07/2026 08:19

What bizarre behaviour. Nothing to do with lifts though. In my experience the really weird lift behaviour is the people who behave as if giving someone a lift to a place you’re going to already is on a par with donating a kidney….

Nope.
Some people cant tolerate being stuck in a car with a stranger and having to make small talk.
Id rather sabotage my car/go sick/.hand my notice in than have to do that.

MajorProcrastination · 20/07/2026 13:53

Fair play to your DH for handling the incident like that. Perfect. No notes.

It's her responsibility to find an alternative way into work. Especially as you were away because of work. Batty.

Paganpentacle · 20/07/2026 13:53

TalkToTheHand123 · 20/07/2026 13:18

He could claim it back from the wife if the wife had an arrangement.

He could leave the adult woman to sort out her own transport?

NoCommentingFromNowOn · 20/07/2026 13:58

Paganpentacle · 20/07/2026 13:53

He could leave the adult woman to sort out her own transport?

I couldn’t work out why OP was giving her a lift in the first place - she described it as ‘not far’ and it was only to work, not home again.

I wonder how she gets to her usual place of work?

LejlaKapovic · 20/07/2026 14:04

PearsandAlmonds · 16/07/2026 15:59

What is it about lifts that brings the worst out in people?

We have a woman who is currently interning for a short period of time in our department (in her thirties - not a teen).

While I don't directly work in the area she's in, her manager got in contact with me because we live in the same area and asked if I could bring her in for about a month, six weeks at the most, until she is moved on to the next department in her internship. She's been waiting at the end of my road every morning, and I have been picking her up with absolutely no issues for about a month. She is on time, always ready to go. Perfectly pleasant.

I am away for work for a few days, so I mentioned this to her in advance and also let her manager know in passing that alternate arrangements need to be made (as he thought the 6 weeks were fully covered)

She turned up this morning, knocked on my front door, and when my DH answered, said that she expected that 'someone' would drive her in because I was away.

He laughingly said, 'What, on the handlebars of my bicycle?' She got very affronted at that. (He was dressed in cycle gear, to be clear, and had a bike out in the hallway ready to go - as he was on the way to his job)

She then just stood there and asked what he was going to do about it (not aggressively but obviously expecting him to solve or do something) - he said 'I am sure you will work it out' and cycled off

Who does that?!?

Why on Earth did you agree to this arrangement in the first place? I'd stop them after seeing her entitlement.

MeAndMyGhost · 20/07/2026 14:07

I've had to read the OPs posts over three times because I cannot wrap my head around this approach to life. Baffling. I don't understand this at all Confused

TheFifthTellytubby · 20/07/2026 14:08

"Essentially, she is of the opinion that if you leave a gap, people cannot help themselves but step in to fill it and solve the issue."
This sounds like the perfect definition of a CF! 🤔😂

istherereallytimeforallthat · 20/07/2026 14:23

I used to work with a simpering airhead someone called Jennifer. She even had a mug at work with the words: JENNIFER, meaning 'lovely' written on it, in case any of us needed confirmation.😂

She was incapable of doing anything as simple as putting more paper in the photocopier, and would waft about helplessly waiting for someone to do it for her.

PearsandAlmonds · 20/07/2026 14:24

NoCommentingFromNowOn · 20/07/2026 13:44

However, this initial part of the internship is focused entirely on introductions. There is no requirement for formal feedback, and when he asked to provide some, he was advised it was not necessary at this stage, as it is a tour of what we do, our working areas, and our facilities, rather than the practical placement stage, which will come later and require formal feedback

So she’s continuing? No one can say ‘you’re a bit crap’ at this stage?

Yup. I think it's 6 mo of touring and shadowing - then she elects an area of interest (unless a team chooses to specifically champion her); then she will be expected to take on the coursework and some responsibilities

OP posts:
PearsandAlmonds · 20/07/2026 14:28

NoCommentingFromNowOn · 20/07/2026 13:58

I couldn’t work out why OP was giving her a lift in the first place - she described it as ‘not far’ and it was only to work, not home again.

I wonder how she gets to her usual place of work?

That's the point currently: she doesn't have a 'usual place of work' - she is on a rotation across all business areas, so I was happy to help out for 6 weeks, one way, for a 20- 25 min drive. She has been on time, quiet, pleasant, and no actual bother.

OP posts:
Dollymylove · 20/07/2026 14:29

Noshowlomo · 16/07/2026 16:06

No way. Are there people like this??

Yes there are definitely people like this. I learned a harsh lesson from my generosity, helping people out for free who don't drive.
Never again!!!

NoCommentingFromNowOn · 20/07/2026 14:30

PearsandAlmonds · 20/07/2026 14:24

Yup. I think it's 6 mo of touring and shadowing - then she elects an area of interest (unless a team chooses to specifically champion her); then she will be expected to take on the coursework and some responsibilities

So when the - why does - I mean couldn’t someone - when will - nah. I got nothing. 🤷‍♀️

Please change jobs so you are able to give us all a laugh at how she gets on suitable and professional updates.

NoCommentingFromNowOn · 20/07/2026 14:32

PearsandAlmonds · 20/07/2026 14:28

That's the point currently: she doesn't have a 'usual place of work' - she is on a rotation across all business areas, so I was happy to help out for 6 weeks, one way, for a 20- 25 min drive. She has been on time, quiet, pleasant, and no actual bother.

Do you work in places with buses? How does she get home?

PearsandAlmonds · 20/07/2026 14:38

NoCommentingFromNowOn · 20/07/2026 14:30

So when the - why does - I mean couldn’t someone - when will - nah. I got nothing. 🤷‍♀️

Please change jobs so you are able to give us all a laugh at how she gets on suitable and professional updates.

To be fair, our interns are normally super stoked to have been chosen. All the previous ones have been very keen because we really do invest in them, and the qualification is not cheap - so at this stage, particularly, they are getting to see all the opportunities available to them, are being treated like visiting dignitaries up and down the country and getting paid for the privilege!

I don't think we have had an occasion where at this stage someone is already swinging the lead.

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PearsandAlmonds · 20/07/2026 14:41

NoCommentingFromNowOn · 20/07/2026 14:32

Do you work in places with buses? How does she get home?

I never asked, sorry.

We have some public transport, but you do have to go 'the wrong way' into a major town, then swap to another bus which comes back the way I live (or reversed on the way in to work) - the transit time between the two buses is regularly an hour of waiting, which is why I drive to work when it's not that far.

OP posts:
TheFifthTellytubby · 20/07/2026 14:42

PearsandAlmonds · 20/07/2026 14:41

I never asked, sorry.

We have some public transport, but you do have to go 'the wrong way' into a major town, then swap to another bus which comes back the way I live (or reversed on the way in to work) - the transit time between the two buses is regularly an hour of waiting, which is why I drive to work when it's not that far.

Edited

I'm sure that particular "gap" has been "filled" somehow or other with minimal effort on the part of the CF. 🙄

ParsleySageToiletDuckAndBinBags · 20/07/2026 16:22

...he realised after having a few conversations with her that her passivity is a choice on her part. Essentially, she is of the opinion that if you leave a gap, people cannot help themselves but step in to fill it and solve the issue.

While she didn't outright say this, she inferred that it made her awkward enough that people don't give her any responsibility, don't ask anything of her, and don't expect anything from her.

Is this her?!

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ParsleySageToiletDuckAndBinBags · 20/07/2026 16:34

BeingATwatItsABingThing · 18/07/2026 11:13

There is something about people who don’t drive that makes them ridiculously entitled. Not everyone obviously but there is certainly an expectation that they’ll be given a lift everywhere even if it’s massively inconvenient for everyone else. I’ve paid a lot of money to be able to drive and that is for me, not some randomer’s benefit.

I work with someone who constantly expects lifts but she always wants someone else to arrange them. She got another manager (her mum - whole other thread!) to ask me if I would ask a colleague I know well but she’d be working with to give her a lift. I responded to tell them both that he is a lovely guy so I’m sure, if she asked really nicely with a smile, he’d be accommodating. I then messaged him separately to give him the heads up and said it was perfectly fine for him to say no.

Also, why is the manager getting involved in this?! You take a job knowing where it is and how you get there is your problem!

I think there are two distinct streams of non-drivers:

  1. Those who realise that they can't drive themselves - sometimes an active choice not to learn and pay the costs of car ownership, if they live in a big city - and who thus make plans based around walking and the public transport available to them, and maybe the very odd favour (for which they offer fuel money);
  2. Those who got used to being driven around everywhere as children and somehow see it that 'adult = able to drive'; and so they just continue to subconsciously act like children and rely on the adults who did bother to learn to drive and deal with all of the costs and effort of driving. Basically, in that one respect, they just never transition into being a grown-up and treat their travelling-in-car needs as anybody else's responsibility but theirs - just like they did when they were 8, and if mum or dad couldn't take them somewhere, they would automatically arrange for an alternative lift.
BeingATwatItsABingThing · 20/07/2026 19:25

TalkToTheHand123 · 20/07/2026 13:18

He could claim it back from the wife if the wife had an arrangement.

Woah! It wasn’t sarcasm?! 🤯