Sandie Peggie: Employment Tribunal, associated legal claims, and related matters - thread #66

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TLDR version: Sandie Peggie vs Royal College of Nursing is currently being heard. The hearing started on Wednesday 23 September 2026 and is scheduled to end on Thursday 1 October 2026.

Sandie Peggie, a nurse at Victoria Hospital in Kirkcaldy (VH), brought claims in the employment tribunal against her employer; Fife Health Board (the Board) and another employee, Dr B Upton. Ms Peggie’s claims were of sexual harassment, harassment related to a protected belief, indirect discrimination and victimisation. Dr Upton claimed to be a transwoman, that is observed as male at birth but asserting a female gender identity.

The Employment Tribunal hearing started on Monday 3 February 2025 and after a prolonged process judgment was handed down on 8 December 2025. That judgment is being appealed and an appeal hearing is expected to take place in 2027.

Additional legal claims have been raised. Sandie Peggie is taking action against the Royal College of Nursing, against three senior managers who were witnesses in the employment tribunal - Dr Kate Searle, Dr Maggie Currer and Esther Davidson, against Carol Potter, the chief executive of NHS Fife, for victimisation, against NHS Fife for discrimination, and against its director of people and culture David Miller for harassment. In addition, Sandie Peggie is being investigated by the Nursing and Midwifery Council over fitness to practice.
The past proceedings were live tweeted by www.x.com/tribunaltweets. Tribunal Tweets are likely to be providing coverage in current and future proceedings.

There's additional information on Tribunal Tweets' substack: www.tribunaltweets.substack.com/.

Links to previous threads #1 to #60 can be found in this thread: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5379717-sandie-peggie-list-of-threads-covering-employment-tribunal-and-afterwards

Thread 61: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5472628-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-following-employment-tribunal-judgment-thread-61 8 January 2026 to 3 August 2026

Thread 62: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5562302-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-following-employment-tribunal-judgment-thread-62 3 August 2026 to 24 September 2026

Thread 63: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5581909-sandie-peggie-employment-tribunal-associated-legal-claims-and-related-matters-thread-63 24 September 2026 to 27 September 2026

Thread 64: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5583133-sandie-peggie-employment-tribunal-associated-legal-claims-and-related-matters-thread-64 27 September 2026 to 29 September 2026

Thread 65: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5583663-sandie-peggie-employment-tribunal-associated-legal-claims-and-related-matters-thread-65 29 September 2026 to 30 September 2026

TT

NC: Doc says, health staff have strong role in affirming the identity of trans ppl. Tells staff to adopt uncritical acceptance of IDs doesn't it.
PM: Not sure what you mean.

NC: There was another dispute here, re young ppl - whether their IDs should be uncritically affirmed or whether it's important to explore reasons etc.
PM: Yes I see
NC: And this doc says, uncritically affirm.
PM: That was position at the time yes.

I just did what I was told is never a good look.

Luckily I've taken my blood pressure pills this morning. Another overpaid grifter giving me the rage, and her wages are paid for by the women she fails to speak up for.

Why do healthcare workers have to have any particular approach to trans people, shouldn't they be treated exactly the same as everyone else?

Why do they have to affirm?

Why the special treatment?

I wish NC would ask her WHY she thought it was the law?

Why can’t I get a 6 figure salary doing a job I’m unqualified for and shit at? Seems unfair.

What did you do?

Just got I for this afternoon’s session with the fab NC on cross

TT

NC: Do you accept that this another flashpoint between accepting and rejecting gender ideology? Affirming vs questioning?
PM: Not sure it's picking a side. It's about being inclusive and accepting of ppls choices.

Same here - I know I was late but even so.......

It used to be you needed a cock and balls. So I suppose discovering she's managed to achieve those dizzy heights of mediocre but paid well is a plus for equality!

PM: It was the law at the time**

Oh Patricia. You're either a big fat fibber or dim. Which is it? I know the answer really

TT

NC: Do you recall a Times article some years ago re the Dave Dawes affair, 2021, about an unoffical feminist network?
PM: I think convos about a women's network?
NC: But with a feminist agenda?
PM: Not aware of that.

NC: Blocked by Dave Dawes?
PM: I honest don't remember.

NC: p51 of supp bundle.
NC: This is an RCN event, you said?
PM: Yes
NC: Woman here is Karmala Boyd [title]
PM: Yes

Hypothetical question re the guidance ‘uncritically affirming’ say a young woman presenting as a man. Abdominal pain - nurse affirms the patient that they are male. So if the nurse had asked if the patient ‘could’ be pregnant would the patient have been able to report nurse for misgendering?

If nurse had not asked about the possibility of pregnancy because she is uncritically affirming the patient presenting and wanting care as a man and then a complication from pregnancy occurred could the patient sue because they have not been checked out properly as per their biological sex?

You haven't perfected the art of saying INCLUSIVE every time you breathe. Keep trying.

You could copy and paste that comment for anyorganisation in any of these tribunals

I think this situation did actually happen in America?

Ooh Fred's back!

I'm in, they better not go to a break

I'm sure you'll want to glance quite fast!!

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

ETA apology for being ahead of tweets I'll sit on my hands.

TT

NC: Here is bluesky tweet by Freda Wallace, his photo shows an RCN + ProgressPride badge, with a card asks ppl to photo theirs etc et. The card was part of his delegate pack?
PM: I don't know, don't think so.
NC: Wallace had ordered it himself?
PM Possible yes.

NC: [missed ref] you have had since July, sent from C solicitors?
PM Am sure you are right but don't know.

[[ From Nick, for clarity on what TT didn't hear
"NC so FW could have ordered it from the RCN shop
PM yes
NC on p51 your solicitors have had that image since 30 July since it was sent to them [this is the image I think of FW being at the RCN event]
PM take your word for it
NC and then there was a request for info about FW's""]]

No wonder NC wanted another 2 hours with PM.

TT

NC: It's right that there was a request for documents from C solicitor asking RCN to explain Wallace's attendance?
PM: i think yes

NC: So you'd expect RCN to have looked into Wallace shortly after, and found out what he is like?
PM: Yes
NC: And anything you didn't find out, you will have had with the C bundle late august?
PM: Yes

NC: Back to supp bundle, pp48-50 - just glance, unpleasant possibly - those are images of Freda Wallace? He tweeted them etc?
PM: Looks like, that yes.
NC: True that R tried v hard to exclude these? At private hearing on Tues?
PM: I was not here.

[My bold!!]

this is like watching an old kung-fu film which has been so badly dubbed that a character goes Aaaaaaaargh! about three seconds before he is kicked by Bruce Lee.....

TT

NC: FW is a member of RCN?
PM: Yes
NC: Since August when RCN saw this, what if anything have you done about FW?
PM: We don't actively monitor members - we only monitor internal RCN network etc

NC: Of course, but you have known about FW conduct since 29th August.
PM: Not sure what you would want us to do?
NC: Well - he can come to HQ, to Congress, use the library etc - do you think other members would be OK with meeting him there?

PM: I'm sure some members yes would not like to encounter someone that has put out posts like that.