How To Destroy A Lesbian Bar - Atlantic article by Helen Lewis

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Couldn't find a thread about this - an article about how left-wing activism eats its own young. It is how a Lesbian bar that announced mask free evenings (as the Covid pandemic was waning) was absolutely slaughtered.

How to Destroy a Lesbian Bar - The Atlantic

archive article here

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Nothing like a leftie to see the craziness of her side. Heien is that one, Batya Ungar-Sargon another.
I've had my own "wake up and smell the coffee" moment as a right winger re some politics on my my side.
It's a strange feeling, both cathartic but embarrassing personally.
Hopefully we all live. But we don't all learn.
Currently the IDentarian Left aren't learning. Or living. Because the people involved in this debacle are cos playing life and politics

Yes, that line really made me laugh, though I can never quite remember what praxis is and had to google it.

Does this bar feel like the show in The Producers, designed to go bankrupt?

I'm sure Revolutionary Praxis is a prog band I used to follow.

😂 That's what they need then Hitler in fishnet stockings and a facemask.

There are .gifs!

Do you think they could have persuaded enough people to invest in it?

😂😂😂

Sorry, too good an image to resist.

I’ll get my coat.

On one level as someone who has only read the article linked in the OP and the in fact hundreds of others similar in tone, I cant be sure what is going on or went on.

Sounds really bad.

But those who are informed about women's activism in the UK and what does or doesn't pass for feminism will be all to well aware of how a group, not even online but in person, spent months bullying the women who were trying to keep the Feminist Library going as a committment to feminist history.

So we can all sit and snigger at someone being bullied, and write clever comments about her, but whilst not having myself any interest in running a lesbian bar that has been transed and captured by far our US conspiracy theories, it would be nice to think that as this is a feminist forum, or at least meant to be, that some might have some empathy for this woman being pilloried.

I cant find any article that reports this, but have seen online listings that makes it look like the venue is still open.

What a terrible indictment of the world we know live in that the leaches such as the Boston Globe that broke the story has gained financially, as no doubt has Helen Lewis, and the Guardian reporter.

For a forum that on occasions tut tuts about cults and the damage they do, I find this online sneering really sad.

Or is FWR now just a subset of reddit.

"Praxis" in regular german just means practice - as in GP surgery

For a forum that on occasions tut tuts about cults and the damage they do, I find this online sneering really sad

Oh god your scolding is tedious. We are sneeringvat the modern-day struggle sessions. At the ever increasing number of points on the purity index people have to hit before some self-appoonted committee cancels you and ruins your life.

But do you know what IS sad? The erosion of decades of solid activism and struggle for women's rights in a tsunami of hate towards us. And all the fucking scolding.

Read more, the woman is the architect of her own downfall, the bar was set up in the beginning to cater to the Loonies. She hasn't been 'Transed' out of business, the batshittery was the whole point of the bar. She didn't open a regular bar that got hijacked, the stupidity was baked in at the beginning.
If you having a bad night because of illness maybe you should just go on Reddit to post, they're all moany moos over there, you'll fit right in.

Did you know the bar only opened last year? To cater for "dykes, transsexuals, gender freaks, workers, and their friends". This isn't a takeover that happened against the founders's wishes, one of whom uses it/its pronouns.

Purity spiral shouldn’t be your business USP.

I’ve known a couple of landladies, and neither of them would have stood for this level of nonsense and ran successful pubs for years, so I don’t think it’s a feminism issue, so much as lifestyle choices vs business choices issue.

Also, it sounds like the bar owner was offered money in donations and turned them down, so it’s hard to feel too sorry. If you are running a very niche, non-profitable business with debts hanging over your head, a few supportive patrons would be very helpful.

Honestly, everyone in the story sounds like an insufferable twat who spends most of their life screaming into the Blue Sky void about Intersectionality. I was pondering the other day about what happened to all the Covid hold outs ("I will mask forever and only leave home when absolutely necessary wearing a hazmat suit") and now I know.

Funny I was just thinking the Japanese Soldier analogy applies to the MAGAs now. But they will have the pretendy left school bullies for company.

It's an ill wind that blows nobody any good : I can still drink milk cos I'm ethnically Irish . Ner neh neh ..

I saw a comment somewhere hoping it was the 'it' founder who went to clown school.

These people are just abusive, that's what's really going on here.

They might be high on their own virtue, but it is no different than the kind of evil priest charachter you see in a film who thinks he's next to God while he beats small children.

It's a mental construct yo allow them to both feel virtuous and experience the joy of targeted abuse.

🙄

Not so virtuous they want to pay their creditors. The purity doesn’t involve payment of debts.

Yes. Two thirds of the founders just fucked off and left muggins carrying the can for the whole debt they'd collectively taken on.