Sandie Peggie: Employment Tribunal, associated legal claims, and related matters - thread #63

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TLDR version: Sandie Peggie vs Royal College of Nursing is currently being heard. The hearing started on Wednesday 23 September 2026 and is scheduled to end on Thursday 1 October 2026.

Sandie Peggie, a nurse at Victoria Hospital in Kirkcaldy (VH), brought claims in the employment tribunal against her employer; Fife Health Board (the Board) and another employee, Dr B Upton. Ms Peggie’s claims were of sexual harassment, harassment related to a protected belief, indirect discrimination and victimisation. Dr Upton claimed to be a transwoman, that is observed as male at birth but asserting a female gender identity.

The Employment Tribunal hearing started on Monday 3 February 2025 and after a prolonged process judgment was handed down on 8 December 2025. That judgment is being appealed and an appeal hearing is expected to take place in 2027.

Additional legal claims have been raised. Sandie Peggie is taking action against the Royal College of Nursing, against three senior managers who were witnesses in the employment tribunal - Dr Kate Searle, Dr Maggie Currer and Esther Davidson, against Carol Potter, the chief executive of NHS Fife, for victimisation, against NHS Fife for discrimination, and against its director of people and culture David Miller for harassment. In addition, Sandie Peggie is being investigated by the Nursing and Midwifery Council over fitness to practice.

The past proceedings were live tweeted by www.x.com/tribunaltweets. Tribunal Tweets are likely to be providing coverage in current and future proceedings. There's additional information on Tribunal Tweets' substack: tribunaltweets.substack.com/.

Links to previous threads #1 to #60 can be found in this thread: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5379717-sandie-peggie-list-of-threads-covering-employment-tribunal-and-afterwards

Thread 60: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5461133-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-following-employment-tribunal-judgment-thread-60 16 December 2025 to 8 January 2026

Thread 61: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5472628-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-following-employment-tribunal-judgment-thread-61 8 January 2026 to 3 August 2026

Thread 62: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5562302-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-following-employment-tribunal-judgment-thread-62 3 August 2026 to 24 September 2026

This train identifies as having arrived 23 minutes ago.

Well he's right buggered now, although he couldn't really say no, one lot of people are going to think he's an expedient spineless liar and the other lot are going to get their stomping boots out.

Oh what a tangled web.

ps I like quotations 😊

pps ahem, I wasn't trying an actual segue from the tender behind.

Hard to tell it's a tiny screen very far away from me!

NC RCN didn't seek to micro manage LG view on abortion as they didn't have a position on this
NP - we have no external stakeholders in RoI.
NC - if it was right that RCN hadn't adopted position on GC debate, then RCN could take same approach to that of LM?
NP the issue from the orgs perspective was potential of relationship with prisons service. Lisa's personal view conflated with RCN
NC Difference between examples is that RCN has a position on gender ideology and it has adopted it tacitly
NP don't agree
NC - page 764 main bundle....

He seems like a jobsworth beaurocrat to me...

He can’t escape the fact that Lisa was disciplined because of her GC views evidenced by the policy point he used.

Yes - much praise to the posters who are following TT directly, and who managed not to get ahead of us, and wait until we all had sight of the comedy gold.
Admirable restraint, wims!

Gah!

I want to shake him!

My restraint has definitely slipped somewhat this afternoon!

NC - the doc is LM longer declaration of interest statement, specifically on 'my values' Naomie quotes from this. LM concurs with those values. It's clear Rachel working from assumption GC is anti equality?
NP haven't seen this before bundle put before me
NP I don't know what discussion Rachel had with Lisa
NC - LM was insulted by suggestion that she should reflect on values
NP if indeed she was, yes
NC but you have described her as an honest person
NP not what I'm saying, I'm saying can't comment

He reminds me of that Shaggy song...

I think we are watching a private dawning in real time that the RCN was indeed captured.

Im going to steal that phrase when folk claim to not know. “Can you hazard a guess” ? I like that .

It's always interesting watching the penny drop with these blokes.

NC - back to article and abstract of article. That refers to a process of policy where decisions made without due regard to other impacted groups. '....the interests of specific interest groups'
That's a pretty good description of what's happened inside RCN. The adoption of gender ideology has been tacit because if it's explicit that 'any man is a woman' you'd get pushback
NP yes

'Can you hazard a guess?' is going to be this year's 'and would it be rude of me to ask how that is working out?'

”preposterous” - such a good descriptive word.

Alert:

Few more Qs and then we'll be having a break

I LOVE how she's getting the most egregious examples in!

I bet NP gets absolutely sloshed this evening.

NC but if you asked for this discussion you would get a lot of dissent and evidence as to that would be a bad idea.
NP it's the members not org that have that debate
NC - that position, the gender ideology is tacit and the reason for this is that because it's a ridiculous idea with rapists in women's prisons
NP we haven't taken that positions.
NC it's been treated by your merch dept and Rachel that it's something that's for thinking people to accept. That led to Rachel's comment about Lisa's value
NC if you think about the outcomes of gender ideology - rapists in women's prisons, men heading rape crisis centres . Gender ideology privileges the rights of a minority of men over all women?
NP yes

Naomi thoroughly deserves every penny of her hourly rate.

He'll need one!
I feel like pulling Naomi away by the arm and saying 'Leave it, Nay, 'e's not worf it' at this point.
But I'm not observing, so maybe he isn't sufficiently humbled and needs a bit more 'questioning'

I love the way NC can reel off a list.

he needs a lot more.

This is sublime.