Sandie Peggie: Employment Tribunal, associated legal claims, and related matters - thread #63

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TLDR version: Sandie Peggie vs Royal College of Nursing is currently being heard. The hearing started on Wednesday 23 September 2026 and is scheduled to end on Thursday 1 October 2026.

Sandie Peggie, a nurse at Victoria Hospital in Kirkcaldy (VH), brought claims in the employment tribunal against her employer; Fife Health Board (the Board) and another employee, Dr B Upton. Ms Peggie’s claims were of sexual harassment, harassment related to a protected belief, indirect discrimination and victimisation. Dr Upton claimed to be a transwoman, that is observed as male at birth but asserting a female gender identity.

The Employment Tribunal hearing started on Monday 3 February 2025 and after a prolonged process judgment was handed down on 8 December 2025. That judgment is being appealed and an appeal hearing is expected to take place in 2027.

Additional legal claims have been raised. Sandie Peggie is taking action against the Royal College of Nursing, against three senior managers who were witnesses in the employment tribunal - Dr Kate Searle, Dr Maggie Currer and Esther Davidson, against Carol Potter, the chief executive of NHS Fife, for victimisation, against NHS Fife for discrimination, and against its director of people and culture David Miller for harassment. In addition, Sandie Peggie is being investigated by the Nursing and Midwifery Council over fitness to practice.

The past proceedings were live tweeted by www.x.com/tribunaltweets. Tribunal Tweets are likely to be providing coverage in current and future proceedings. There's additional information on Tribunal Tweets' substack: tribunaltweets.substack.com/.

Links to previous threads #1 to #60 can be found in this thread: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5379717-sandie-peggie-list-of-threads-covering-employment-tribunal-and-afterwards

Thread 60: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5461133-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-following-employment-tribunal-judgment-thread-60 16 December 2025 to 8 January 2026

Thread 61: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5472628-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-following-employment-tribunal-judgment-thread-61 8 January 2026 to 3 August 2026

Thread 62: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5562302-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-following-employment-tribunal-judgment-thread-62 3 August 2026 to 24 September 2026

Chastises myself for posting before the tweets!

NC - it's your outcome letter from disc process 2019. You wrote letter and made decision
NP I made decision, someone else wrote letter based on my notes, HR
NC lisa wrote back to you to correct chronology. You don't suggest anything she says isn't accurate
NP don't recall

NP - I accept that is Lisa's version
NC - but as you see her as honest person you can see that that is her version of events. On the expectation that is an honest version...go back to previous year look at what she's put in (ref to papers) can you agree that her dec of interest form was accurate?
NP yes
NC- are you aware of trans activists reaction
NP yes
NC - turn to man who calls himself Ellie Lisa was anxious that Ellie had access to building where she worked, no reason to doubt evidence?
NP no

NC - p11 have a look at 11 and 20 of that bundle. We have seen that EM was an active student member of RCN at the time, and he was reg pictured at RCN events
NP yes
NC can see him being congratulated and re-tweeted by RCN governance - page 8

Ooh! Early score for NC.

Go Naomi!

NP - not sure if that is governance but I appreciate the point.
NC are you aware of Ellie's twitter handle?
NP no
NC pages 24 to 30 of this bundle, please remind yourself.
NP yes have seen

All SIX of them😁

NC "I want to turn to the man who calls himself Ellie Mulreany" - he was regularly pictured at RCN events"

Go NC, go NC

Can NC say "kick the ever living fuck out of terfs" any more times?

I love NC

NC you see by the handle with the photo, that's his isn't it
NP yes
NC Do you agree that that is unpleasant and threatening material towards people who hold GC beliefs
NP yes
NC And I don't need to go through in detail, but in particular the terf stomping boots and the post p28 punch nazis, threaten terfs.../
NC do you agree this is pretty clear that he is talking about terfs. He is encouraging people to 'kick the living fuck out of terfs.
NP yes
NC so reasonsable for Lisa to be fearful? didn't catch answer

NC it is not fanciful for Lisa to expect EM to be invited into building? and it's right isn't it that many men who say they are women are committed to getting access to women's spaces. It is not unreasonable to fear that the RCN might be another boundary

I liked the "somewhat touched up photo" comment.😂

NP yes Easy for RP to find out whether Ellie a member was a member or not
NP Yes
NC difficult to see why she didn't let Lisa know that
NP yes
NC section 11 emp contract - no articles for publications - where you express views contrary to RCN...head of dept' Dealing with reputation - you would think policy officer published would enhance RCN
NP yes

So much more watchable than this morning.

Not a nurse, training as something specific like an theatre support person?

God, I love this.

I have several cubic meters of popcorn,please help yourselves.

NC if it was in line with policies of RCN. So it seems from that clause, page 675 in context so you confirm that you were focused on clause in outcome letter. That seems to say (quotes) mustn't publish views without permission.
But sensibly read, can't expect members to be clairvoyant, would that be fair
NP yes, it doesn't say that
NC but more than that it must be that must be things RCN has adopted publically
NP yes
(sound poor apologies)

Why, thank you

Love this.

NC question

NP waffle waffle waffle.

NC BUT ....

Rinse and repeat

I touched my computer mouse by mistake, just a smidge, and now I'm out of the room and WFTCHTJ.

NC trying to pin down treacle with a baguette here.