Kenwood Ladies Pond Authoritarians

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The handmaidens at The Ladies Pond just can’t help themselves. A woman wears a swimming costume which expresses an opinion which contravenes their ludicrous trans ideology and they actually want to know if she can be prevented from wearing it. They think they’re the good guys but they are authoritarians enforcing a men’s sexual rights movement.
No dearies, you can’t stop this woman from wearing her cool swimming costume just because you don’t like it.

I can imagine.

I doubt that you would have had a satisfactory response from the management sadly. That was, as you say, harassment. It was wildly inappropriate and transgressing boundaries.

That would be better.

I wonder if those born male would leave quickly if the police were called. Though it is the Met Police with jurisdiction in Hampstead and given their record of hatred for women, not so sure.

It's the same old misogynist energy that is deployed to pretend it's women complaining about what men have said or done to them that is the problem rather than what the man said or did.

It never even crosses their mind to consider the "nastiness" starts with the man who choses to insult, exclude or objectify a woman. Their finger points only at the woman who didn't do her duty of smiling and sucking it up to keep things "nice".

Completely.

Women who love to enjoy the pools in a mixed sex environment have a mixed sex pond in which they can have a lovely time, and men with gender identities can be there, with women, as their alternative to preferring not to use the facilities of their sex.

Neither group need to righteously deprive women of single sex spaces and equality of access. It is obviously mad that men have a choice of three pools while smugly enjoying that they are preventing some women from having any access to a pool at all. It's appalling and selfish behaviour.

Absolutely and I am incredulous that anyone can’t see the injustice of this. Born men can swim in three pools. Some women can’t swim in any. Make it make sense.

What do you think would happen if your trans child attempted to access the pond that aligned with their gender identity? Would it be "welcome in fellow geezer" or would it be "fuck off woman"?

Before anyone points it out, I realise that the counter argument is that trans women are women, but to the vast majority of people (and the law) they’re not.

It's the usual thing.

-I wish to identify how I like and be whatever sex I choose!

-Fine. Lovely. There's a mixed sex facility over there where it doesn't matter, where you're entirely free to be yourself, and you don't have to be restricted to only a choice of your sex based provision. Have a lovely time.

-But I want to use the single sex provision because I like the feel of that best, even though I know it excludes women from their only available provision, and makes many others uncomfortable, unwelcome and subordinated to my (male) dominance of the resources.

-No, because that's unreasonable, selfish, unnecessary and frankly anti social. Other people have needs too.

-Waaaaaaaaah. <Heel drumming ensues.>

And it is only men. No women with gender identities are going to be harassing, dominating and driving men out of the men's single sex provision, a) because the men won't have it, and won't be expected to, b) they wouldn't dare, and c) however women might personally identify they don't behave like this to other people.

So people who don’t believe in following the law of the land when it comes to the EqA2010 also don’t believe in following the law of the land when it comes to expressing legally protected opinions? Riiiiiigghhhttt.

Are there any laws they happen to agree with? I didn’t realise everything was optional.

The alleged child that used to be a niece/nephew but is now definitely a trans son and totally passes despite often wearing make up and dresses?

I know. I'm thinking about explaining to HMRC about how I'm not sure I wholly agree with being taxed, and will wait for guidance. Properly written of course, and put through the HoC. After which I will say I am still finding it complicated and so need guidance about the guidance, and still feel I know better anyway, and since obeying the law is now apparently a matter of personal choice, that will be fine, won't it?

Ooh that's a good one Wishes. I too feel that this taxation thing is FAR TOO COMPLICATED for my female brain to handle - particularly the money that my employer deducts at source. Similarly some speed limits - obviously for me only, I wouldn't want the other idiots on the road breaking them. And property ownership, again only when it applies to other people, I don't want anyone getting their thieving mitts on my stuff; but some people have houses with swimming pools and I instinctively feel that they should be mine really.

Bravo that woman and her amazing swimsuit!

What a deeply shitty thing to do in a trans-inclusive environment.

What, men perving on women? I agree.

It's almost like the pervy creeps have ruined it for the genuine men who just desperately wanted to access the women's pond for completely legitimate reasons to do with how sad they are.

Haha. Why? Would you feel the same if done one had worn a “kill a TERF” swimsuit in a women inclusive environment? If not, why not?

The lack of self awareness here is staggering (and hilarious)
How exactly do you imagine the women on this board view you and your infantile rants?

Is this the equivalent of spitting coffee on your keyboard because something you've read is soooooo hilarious, then going onto a forum to let people know about the hilarity and the coffee-spitting?

TPA's Trans Child is fictitious.

If someone went to a a gender critical convention with a Kill A TERF t-shirt on, I'd expect the same reaction.

It's entirely legal even under the current EHRC code to have a club or gathering which includes two protected characteristics, even if you think that trans and cis women together are "mixed sex." Leave them alone and form your own gender critical swimming club.

Er that's a threat of violence, the swimming top merely stated the truth.

If you can't see the difference, I feel sorry for you.

There's a mixed pond for that.

You can't call it the women's pond and let men in. Change names and they're good to go. But they won't, as then it will be even more blindingly obvious that they won't cater to actual women.