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HoppityBun · Yesterday 14:49

Chersfrozenface · Yesterday 13:45

Do furnish us with a detailed rehabilitation scheme, based on international evidence, with verifiable success rates and accurate costings.

There are several meta analyses available and they’re so easy to find

AlonsoMosley · Yesterday 14:58

AimsAndObjectives · Yesterday 12:39

There is an extra bit of info, linked to by Reduxx:

The basis for the plea deal to go through and for the court to adhere to the agreed-upon sentence in the event of a conviction is, in addition to the former police officer's confession, a victim-offender reconciliation agreement. As part of this agreement, the young victim is to receive a motorcycle and €5,000. Furthermore, the defendant must fully pay a fine from a previous – apparently related – ruling by the Rosenheim District Court. The fact that the 55-year-old reoffended so quickly after this July 2025 ruling was considered an aggravating factor by the prosecution.

So he seems to have had some sort of very recent related offence.

I have no idea what to say about the motorcycle.

https://www.zeit.de/news/2026-09/15/polizistin-soll-14-jaehrige-vergewaltigt-haben

I have no idea what to say about the motorcycle.

Let's try "the continued manipulation of a child."

AimsAndObjectives · Yesterday 15:06

AlonsoMosley · Yesterday 14:58

I have no idea what to say about the motorcycle.

Let's try "the continued manipulation of a child."

Makes one wonder about the parent who was friendly with Scmid. What part are they playing in all this?

ElenOfTheWays · Today 00:25

Mugsey62 · Yesterday 13:25

Well we need to rehabilitate them don't we?

You cannot rehabilitate a paedophile.

Manyanamanyana · Today 05:42

Mugsey62 · Yesterday 14:16

What's the alternative? Brutalise then for 20 years then release them? That just creates more victims doesn't it?

I am actually starting to believe we don't owe sex offenders rehabilitation. Place them out in a desert with a tent and a bucket and spade and let them fend for themselves for all I care. Put up a laser fence and ban the bastards from society. At 53 years old I have read and heard more than enough examples of abusive men harming others, and I simply don't care about their welfare anymore. I don't believe they can change. Send them away. Zero tolerance. The good ones can stay.

Mugsey62 · Today 07:44

Manyanamanyana · Today 05:42

I am actually starting to believe we don't owe sex offenders rehabilitation. Place them out in a desert with a tent and a bucket and spade and let them fend for themselves for all I care. Put up a laser fence and ban the bastards from society. At 53 years old I have read and heard more than enough examples of abusive men harming others, and I simply don't care about their welfare anymore. I don't believe they can change. Send them away. Zero tolerance. The good ones can stay.

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It's not a question of owing anyone rehabilitation. The problem is that most people who commit offences are damaged in some way, usually traumatised when they were children. Sex offenders were often sexually abused themselves as children. So incarcerating them doesn't help with any of this, it just traumatises them more. If you release them without trying to help them come to terms with their own trauma you are just creating more victims when they reoffend.

This is the reality of the situation. Although it sounds like a plan to leave them in the desert somewhere I don't think you really think that is practicable do you?

Prison should be a mixture of 1. consequences so that victims feel that their suffering has been recognised, but also 2. attempts to rehabilitate offenders simply because not to offer this, tempting though it is, does not address the underlying causes.

For Governments to free up money for this isn't an easy sell. It's an easy target for the tabloids. So we keep going around the offending/incarceration/reoffending loop.

There are no easy answers that I can see.

Mommydearest40 · Today 08:06

Mugsey62 · Today 07:44

It's not a question of owing anyone rehabilitation. The problem is that most people who commit offences are damaged in some way, usually traumatised when they were children. Sex offenders were often sexually abused themselves as children. So incarcerating them doesn't help with any of this, it just traumatises them more. If you release them without trying to help them come to terms with their own trauma you are just creating more victims when they reoffend.

This is the reality of the situation. Although it sounds like a plan to leave them in the desert somewhere I don't think you really think that is practicable do you?

Prison should be a mixture of 1. consequences so that victims feel that their suffering has been recognised, but also 2. attempts to rehabilitate offenders simply because not to offer this, tempting though it is, does not address the underlying causes.

For Governments to free up money for this isn't an easy sell. It's an easy target for the tabloids. So we keep going around the offending/incarceration/reoffending loop.

There are no easy answers that I can see.

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Their victims dgaf about their traumatic backgrounds I imagine.

Multiple psychologists assert that paedophiles simply cannot be rehabilitated. It’s not something they can or wish to be ‘trained’ out of. At best they can be contained or closely monitored on release. Ankle tags and no access to the internet?

Mugsey62 · Today 08:17

Mommydearest40 · Today 08:06

Their victims dgaf about their traumatic backgrounds I imagine.

Multiple psychologists assert that paedophiles simply cannot be rehabilitated. It’s not something they can or wish to be ‘trained’ out of. At best they can be contained or closely monitored on release. Ankle tags and no access to the internet?

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Why would/should victims care about perpetrators' backgrounds? But society as a whole has to find solutions doesn't it? Although throwing away the key is an easy sound bite it doesn't improve outcomes for anyone.

Have you got a link to any this research you refer to?

AimsAndObjectives · Today 09:03

They need to be locked up, for the safety of other children. We can argue about how best to address their offending and their own traumas while they are there, locked up in prison, WHERE THEY CANNOT RAPE ANOTHER CHILD.

Mugsey62 · Today 11:04

AimsAndObjectives · Today 09:03

They need to be locked up, for the safety of other children. We can argue about how best to address their offending and their own traumas while they are there, locked up in prison, WHERE THEY CANNOT RAPE ANOTHER CHILD.

How long do you lock them up for?

AimsAndObjectives · Today 11:21

Mugsey62 · Today 11:04

How long do you lock them up for?

We've danced this dance upthread.

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