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RareGoalsVerge · 31/07/2026 13:14

Well it's nice to have an apology, but they don't exactly acknowledge that they are continuing to prioritise men's rights over women's due to their ideological position, do they? They seem to be grudgingly admiting that it's OK for other organisations that prioritise women over men to be allowed to exist, and shouldn't be called "anti rights" because of it, but they are a long way short of actually treating women with anything approaching dignity or equality themselves.

Datun · 31/07/2026 13:15

Yeah, that's not an apology.

An apology will be oh my God we're so sorry, a rogue person posted that. Of course we understand that raped women need female only support. Plus we campaign for female toilets across the world, we know full well why women need privacy, dignity and safety.

That is a load of gritted teeth bollocks to ensure just enough compliance to stop legal action.

Well good fucking luck with that.

I don't think you heard, the woman is furious.

NotAtMyAge · 31/07/2026 13:22

MashaPav · 31/07/2026 11:11

forced to apologise because lack of anti slapp laws.

The only intimidation involved here came from Amnesty itself. This so-called apology is little more than a slightly filled-out version of the brief response it sent to the many complaints from organisations it had defamed. It should never have allowed this and the previous briefing be published and I hope the author of both is held to account for her deeply biased work. It will take the reputation of Amnesty International UK a long time to recover from this if it ever does.

BrownHaired · 31/07/2026 13:28

@BiologicalRobot wrote
Whilst we do not share the views of all these organisations,
They don't agree with women's rights??

and also, what does this mean:

Whilst we do not share the views of all these organisations,
Is that all the organisations or all their views?
We share all the views of some of them (unlikely)
We share some of the views of all of them (also unlikely).
We do not share any of the views of any of these organisations?

NotAtMyAge · 31/07/2026 13:28

Wishesandhorses · 31/07/2026 11:38

Whilst we do not share the views of all these organisations, we recognise the concerns raised by those labelled as “anti-rights” in the document. To be clear: this labelling does not represent our institutional position, and we apologise for its inclusion. In particular, we apologise to Beira’s Place and other groups, which we categorised as gender critical organisations, which we should not have collectively labelled as anti-rights.

Oh that's very grudging and the subtext between those lines is easily read. I don't think that's going to save them; this is basically 'we're right but we should have phrased it a lot more carefully'.

It also shows that the superb letter from Beira's Place's lawyers has got them deeply worried. I really don't think this "apology" will be anything like enough to get them off the hook.

Datun · 31/07/2026 13:38

Given the history of Amnesty, you would think that they, almost above any other organisation, would have really shit hot lawyers.

Honestly, this fucking ideology literally addles people.

MarieDeGournay · 31/07/2026 13:38

The other AI thread, the jumping the shark one, has a letter that AI sent to supporters explaining the apology - it's almost as if they are apologising for having apologised.

Datun · 31/07/2026 13:40

MarieDeGournay · 31/07/2026 13:38

The other AI thread, the jumping the shark one, has a letter that AI sent to supporters explaining the apology - it's almost as if they are apologising for having apologised.

Yeah I didn't get that either.

We're committed to this, that and the other, the rights of everyone, we've taken down the report, but we're really, really sorry to have disappointed you, our core supporters??

What the ever loving fuck!

Helleofabore · 31/07/2026 13:45

I look forward to the responses from
the organisations.

I hope that they push further with this. No organisation or person should be described as ‘anti-rights’ for rejecting the demand that a group of male people be treated as if they were female when there is not material reality to their claim to be female.

‘anti rights’ wasn’t even an accurate claim and was never acceptable. Yet, the people who use it think they are very clever, morally superior and progressive. The use of the term actively contradicts this. But it is always good to see who to ignore when they use the term.

singthing · 31/07/2026 13:54

One interesting point about it, is that it is published/stored in their News section, rather than simply placed on their homepage. I'll be interested to see if it mysteriously vanishes from the News archives in future.

Related, they have done all they can to hide it from site searches once it drops off the homepage. Scroll down to the bottom of any other item on their News page and you'll see an "Article Details" box, containing tags that relate to the menus on the left.

The article directly preceding the non-apology has lots of extra info:

Article details
Posted
30 July 2026

Issue
Rise of authoritarianism

Country
United Kingdom

Article type
Press release

The non-apology has
Article details
Posted
31 July 2026

Datun · 31/07/2026 13:55

MarieDeGournay · 31/07/2026 13:38

The other AI thread, the jumping the shark one, has a letter that AI sent to supporters explaining the apology - it's almost as if they are apologising for having apologised.

I suspect that is at least the 50th iteration of that particular letter. And somehow, it's all got a bit incoherent in the rewrites.

Datun · 31/07/2026 13:57

singthing · 31/07/2026 13:54

One interesting point about it, is that it is published/stored in their News section, rather than simply placed on their homepage. I'll be interested to see if it mysteriously vanishes from the News archives in future.

Related, they have done all they can to hide it from site searches once it drops off the homepage. Scroll down to the bottom of any other item on their News page and you'll see an "Article Details" box, containing tags that relate to the menus on the left.

The article directly preceding the non-apology has lots of extra info:

Article details
Posted
30 July 2026

Issue
Rise of authoritarianism

Country
United Kingdom

Article type
Press release

The non-apology has
Article details
Posted
31 July 2026

One of JKR's conditions was it gets pinned to all their social media.

i'm beginning to wonder if this is a pre-court case thing. We apologised, the conditions that were expected of us were entirely unreasonable, and here are all the reasons why

RedToothBrush · 31/07/2026 14:03

Ok thats an apology from the international section.

Why isn't Amnesty UK also offering an apology? What action is being taken against those members of staff responsible for this?

Is there some retraining going on? Is there disciplinary action going on?

This is important as otherwise it's merely lip service to shut up the solicitors.

Boiledbeetle · 31/07/2026 14:12

That's a piss poor attempt Amnesty.

Try again, but this time with feeling, you're supposed to make the audience believe you are truly contrite.

Datun · 31/07/2026 14:20

Boiledbeetle · 31/07/2026 14:12

That's a piss poor attempt Amnesty.

Try again, but this time with feeling, you're supposed to make the audience believe you are truly contrite.

This.

SylvanMoon · 31/07/2026 14:26

Well, if this is the general TRA Reddit conclusion, then I think Amnesty has a lot to answer for:
"I guess then if there’s no way to fight them the way society wants us to then organisations like BASH BACK are the only option."

RoyalCorgi · 31/07/2026 14:29

originaltotaks · 31/07/2026 11:51

Let me guess - women were cancelling their regular donations/direct debits and so Amnesty is now in crisis mode.

I think it was more likely the threat of a libel suit from Beira's Place that forced their hand. JKR probably has more money than AI UK.

MarieDeGournay · 31/07/2026 14:39

RedToothBrush · 31/07/2026 14:03

Ok thats an apology from the international section.

Why isn't Amnesty UK also offering an apology? What action is being taken against those members of staff responsible for this?

Is there some retraining going on? Is there disciplinary action going on?

This is important as otherwise it's merely lip service to shut up the solicitors.

I missed the fact that it's from the international section, so that mitigates the fact that it took them 48hours to have it 'reported' to them, which I criticised in my previous post.
I apologise unreservedly to AI InternationalSmile

HermioneWeasley · 31/07/2026 14:53

That Reddit thread is hilarious. They actually
believe they’re an oppressed minority instead of the most pandered to group of all time.

they have received hundreds of thousands of pounds of taxpayer money to support men “breastfeeding”. Public money spent on supporting a male fetish and harming vulnerable babies. And they think they’re hard done by.

Arran2024 · 31/07/2026 14:56

They name check Beira's Place because of the specific threat from JKR but no mention of eg the Christian groups who didn't threaten to sue. Just goes to show how getting lawyered up works.

And they had to throw in their ongoing support for trans rights at the end.

GrumpyPanda · 31/07/2026 15:04

Was just thinking they must be having conniptions over on Reddit but you spared me the effort of looking it up 🤣🤣🤣🤣

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 31/07/2026 15:07

So management are trying to claim it was all the fault of a high placed member of staff who acted above her pay grade when she uploaded the report she complied, and spoke about months before on podcasts.
Yeah right.

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zanahoria · 31/07/2026 15:22

They need to stop pretending this is some sort of mystery to be solved

SqueakyDinosaur · 31/07/2026 15:27

The only time I've ever seen something that I'd call a proper apology in one of these cases was from the Metanoia Institute to James Esses. I don't imagine for a moment that they meant it or have changed their core views, but it was a well-written, proper apology: https://x.com/legalfeminist/status/1823678228248100907

Obviously, you can't find it on their website any more...

Legal Feminist (@legalfeminist) on X

A proper apology. (One for claimant lawyers to cut out and keep.)

https://x.com/legalfeminist/status/1823678228248100907

zanahoria · 31/07/2026 15:38

They need to investigate properly and that includes discovering whether Amnesty have created a culture of discrimination against those with gender critical views. Have they sent staff on training courses that promote gender ideology. Have they bullied staff over pronouns etc?

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