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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Polycule falls apart

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RoyalCorgi · 31/07/2026 08:54

I expect people remember that Heather Herbert (charged in relation to social media comments he made after Ann Widdecombe's death) is in a polycule with Sophie Molly (aka Sparkles, aka Euan Weddell) and someone called Poppybear.

Molly, I believe, is a witness for Jolyon Maugham in Sarah Phillimore's libel case against Maugham.

Poppybear has been posting some very indiscreet posts on BlueSky about both Molly and Herbert, and it looks, tragically, as if the polycule has fallen apart.

According to Poppybear, Herbert's comments about Widdecombe "painted a bullseye on all of us", and led to the police coming in and "invading" all their devices (whatever that means).

Also according to Poppybear, living with Sophie Molly is "like being permanently slapped around the face by pathological laziness unless it's something that grooms her ego."

Oh dear.

https://x.com/DogLoverOfPI/status/2082944747862188490

In a separate development, apparently Herbert has had his toxic kidney removed by the NHS so the money donated to the fundraiser is going to be used for something else:

https://x.com/WillyWoofter/status/2082494111555190875

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 03/08/2026 14:00

I agree. I feel a bit sorry for him.

murasaki · 03/08/2026 14:18

I actually buy what he's saying re the mobility aids, if Sparkles got jealous re him and Herbert, it's exactly the kind of thing I can imagine Sparkles doing.

Even given a host of dreadful behaviour over the years this has to be pretty near the top if true.

Hoardasurass · 03/08/2026 14:28

murasaki · 03/08/2026 12:47

I'm also intrigued as to what court has banned comms between them and why, given the only court thing I recall is potentially Herbert's, that may not even happen. And Poppybear seems to think Herbert isn't the problem.

It could be bail conditions on Herbert and co especially if there's more going on than just the AW tweets.
Remember all of their devices were confiscated and Herbert etc al refuse to say what he has been charged with and hes not up before a judge for.a couple of weeks (if I remember correctly) so we wont find out until then

murasaki · 03/08/2026 14:36

True, but he seems to be blaming Sparkles not Herbert. Meanwhile Tabitha sits in the background yanking the puppet strings, I think.

BettyJoanPerske · 03/08/2026 15:16

murasaki · 03/08/2026 14:36

True, but he seems to be blaming Sparkles not Herbert. Meanwhile Tabitha sits in the background yanking the puppet strings, I think.

That turn of phrase provokes a quite fiendish mental image.

GreyskySexRealistsky · 03/08/2026 15:19

Oh mumsnet, PLEASE can we have the laugh emoji back?

UtopiaPlanitia · 03/08/2026 15:42

Ereshkigalangcleg · 02/08/2026 19:36

“We can’t afford not to be able to deliver consequences” what a clumsy, double-negative-laced bizarre sentence

Sparkles tortures the English language on a regular basis - seems to think it makes him sound intellectual whereas it actually makes him sound pompous & incomprehensible 🙄

SabrinaThwaite · 03/08/2026 16:06

Hoardasurass · 03/08/2026 14:28

It could be bail conditions on Herbert and co especially if there's more going on than just the AW tweets.
Remember all of their devices were confiscated and Herbert etc al refuse to say what he has been charged with and hes not up before a judge for.a couple of weeks (if I remember correctly) so we wont find out until then

AFAIK he was reported to procurator fiscal, so it will be some time before it’s known if he’s going to court (on the public record) or if it’s a fine or no further action (not on the public record).

INeedAPensieve · 03/08/2026 16:28

I mean this thread has been... fascinating and horrifying in equal measure. How any of these people taken seriously by government parties, officials or people in authority I'll never know!

Madcats · 03/08/2026 16:45

It has been a pretty wild time to be on X, this weekend.

I’m not sure whether it was a legit post, but have Fat Tony’s mates also had a bust-up?

SylvanMoon · 03/08/2026 16:53

murasaki · 03/08/2026 14:36

True, but he seems to be blaming Sparkles not Herbert. Meanwhile Tabitha sits in the background yanking the puppet strings, I think.

Is yanking puppet strings another sort of kink maneuvre? Do they sell puppet strings in fetish shops these days? (asking for a friend 🙄)

Ereshkigalangcleg · 03/08/2026 17:15

Madcats · 03/08/2026 16:45

It has been a pretty wild time to be on X, this weekend.

I’m not sure whether it was a legit post, but have Fat Tony’s mates also had a bust-up?

Yes it seems so, covered in detail in posts on this thread yesterday.

RedToothBrush · 03/08/2026 17:20

INeedAPensieve · 03/08/2026 16:28

I mean this thread has been... fascinating and horrifying in equal measure. How any of these people taken seriously by government parties, officials or people in authority I'll never know!

And there's Dylan in the US.

FlirtsWithRhinos · 03/08/2026 17:39

SylvanMoon · 03/08/2026 16:53

Is yanking puppet strings another sort of kink maneuvre? Do they sell puppet strings in fetish shops these days? (asking for a friend 🙄)

Oh god, there will be a "make me a puppet" fetish won't there. It's far too close to the mind control and BDSM kinks for there not to be.

Probably a whole porn sub genre. And definitely some hentai.

TrainedByWitches · 03/08/2026 17:40

INeedAPensieve · 03/08/2026 16:28

I mean this thread has been... fascinating and horrifying in equal measure. How any of these people taken seriously by government parties, officials or people in authority I'll never know!

This is the part that’s most depressing, the political establishment have taken these degenerate fools seriously because they are men and not taken concerns expressed by women at all seriously.

UtopiaPlanitia · 03/08/2026 17:41

@FlirtsWithRhinos Hentai is the epitome of Rule 34 from the internet meme.

Datun · 03/08/2026 18:04

This is the part that’s most depressing, the political establishment have taken these degenerate fools seriously

This. A million times.

'Degenerate fools'. Is apt.

Depraved idiots.

Pervy weirdos.

Debased clowns.

It's like, I dunno, listening to the inner meanderings of frenzied degenerates, all accusing the others of betrayal.

Like one of those horror films about multiple personalities which were so popular a few decades ago. Each personality disgusted by the others.

BeKindWisely · 03/08/2026 18:34

Mmmnotsure · 31/07/2026 13:46

It's possible to feel sorry for many people caught up in this. That's part of being human and in touch with natural instincts (and also female socialisation). But that has been weaponised against us. It has been used to corral society at large - much of which went along with it without too much critical thought - into indulging and enabling people who should not have been given power to influence, make and change language, laws, and social mores to the detriment of millions of women and children. Some of the architects are dangerous men. Some of the foot soldiers are vulnerable people who are being manipulated and used. Our normal human reaction of sympathy needs to separated out from the fact that this needs to be ended, even though it causes damage to some.

I know this is much farther along the thread, but I just needed to comment on how beautifully put this is @Mmmnotsure

(See my username!)

There is a fiction (possibly not purely fictional) book that I read quite a few years ago, where the family were looking to socially transition a pre-pubescent boy, and part of the back story was the tragic loss of his sister in very early childhood.

There was no curiosity of connection made between this loss and the boy's wish to be a girl -or some of his family members' keeness to embrace this wish- but it was interesting that it was included in the story.

Nobody else I know who read the book made the connection either.

Mmmnotsure · 03/08/2026 19:49

BeKindWisely · 03/08/2026 18:34

I know this is much farther along the thread, but I just needed to comment on how beautifully put this is @Mmmnotsure

(See my username!)

There is a fiction (possibly not purely fictional) book that I read quite a few years ago, where the family were looking to socially transition a pre-pubescent boy, and part of the back story was the tragic loss of his sister in very early childhood.

There was no curiosity of connection made between this loss and the boy's wish to be a girl -or some of his family members' keeness to embrace this wish- but it was interesting that it was included in the story.

Nobody else I know who read the book made the connection either.

It’s a very good username! - and relevant, too, given many people don’t understand how difficult it can be to work out how to be truly kind.

BeKindWisely · 03/08/2026 19:54

Mmmnotsure · 03/08/2026 19:49

It’s a very good username! - and relevant, too, given many people don’t understand how difficult it can be to work out how to be truly kind.

Yes indeed.

It makes me so sad and frustrated how vastly this point is missed, especially when society is more saturated with both therapeutic and healthy parenting knowledge than it ever has been!

I adopted the username directly after another poster used the phrase to make the same point so well quite a while ago.

Apologies (and thanks) to the poster- I can't remember who you are if you're reading this!

SidewaysOtter · 03/08/2026 21:45

murasaki · 03/08/2026 14:36

True, but he seems to be blaming Sparkles not Herbert. Meanwhile Tabitha sits in the background yanking the puppet strings, I think.

I don't want to think about that lot yanking anything. Put me right off my crumble, that has Hmm

Heylittlesongbird · 03/08/2026 22:41

I find it really weird that both groups have fallen out at the same time.

I am so cynical that I’m wondering what they’re up to in a Trojan horse mission.

But maybe they all just levelled up at the same time?

I find it very depressing that these 8 to 10 men have caused so much havoc to women’s rights. I strongly believe that they are the cause of a significant % of the issues women have had to battle over the last 5 years or so.

BettyJoanPerske · 03/08/2026 22:44

I've read more of Poppy's bluesky. Bit of an eye opener for sure. I am curious about the elusive Tabby.

Lalgarh · 03/08/2026 23:36

Oh hello.

I'm not sure of the details of this other group but ..

https://nitter.net/WingsScotland/status/2084324375885443129#m

So, readers, I just spent two hours being questioned under caution by the police on account of Lynsay Watson and OH MY HOLY MOTHER OF THE LITTLE BABY JESUS wait until I tell you about it

KittyWilkinson · 03/08/2026 23:54

The suspension! I can't bear it!

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