Why do some feminists oppose misogyny but support gender ideology?

[Doodwhatareyou]

I recently ended up in the man hating side of tiktok, which is a place I tend to be in agreement with. I’ve seen several women bravely battle stupid men in the comments who manage to reinforce everything being said.

I’ve seen a pattern though that these women, who seem to be very up on rules of misogyny, and aware of how problematic too many men are, usually have pronouns in their bio, and occasionally will complain about being bullied by terfs.

I’m baffled.

How can they be so up on patriarchal nonsense yet miss the fundamental misogyny in gender ideology. How can they deny the evidence that trans identified men are just as much of a problem for women if not more as they want women’s rights and spaces.

They can make endless videos about how hateful men are because of the way women are treated, and how women have to budge up and make room, yet trans identified men are women, and anyone who says otherwise is a massive bigot. I don’t understand.

But it's not circular because what a 'woman' is, is in the eye of the beholder. This is the whole point gender critical ideologues miss. Gender is an individually subjective values based belief. Just because scientific facts exist in the world (an 'is') does not make an 'ought'.

"or Hume's Guillotine) means you cannot logically deduce how the world should be based solely on statements about how the world currently is. It strictly separates factual descriptions from moral prescriptions. 1, 2]"

Oh gawd. I'm off😂

I'm reminded of Paul Calf's expression "gobshite tennis" 😄

Oh dear. An actual "Let me show you my A-Level philosophy learnings" in the wild.

TRA:it's anyone who says blah blah blah, just a bunch of bigots, they just see them as women
1000 separate FWR posters: but how, just tell us what you are talking about
TRA: can't stop, off to ice a cake/watch a film

So a flinkypink is anything that identifies as a flinkypink.

See, I can do circular non definitions too!

It's anyone who identifies as a woman basically

Are you actually saying that with a straight face? Do you know what a definition is?

A definition is anything that identifies as a definition, obvs.

Quick, block your ears, close your eyes & repeat ad nauseam:

'men in dresses'
'men in dresses'
'men in dresses'

immediately to exorcise any 'evil' basic logic that might seep through the 'biology'/'stereotype' immunity to information shield.

The people most disbelieving seem to be American right winged men.

Gosh I’m on the plane to America to see these winged men!!

Do they have left wings as well or do they just fly in circles?

To be fair, in any belief system, you cannot expect an explanation of the most fundamental faith premise. TWAW cannot be explained; it can only be believed.

We are all Doubting Thomasinas, I guess.

Right ho

it's not circular because what a 'woman' is, is in the eye of the beholder.

Oh cool, so when we look at a ‘transwoman’ and behold him as a man, he’s a man?

That was easier than I was expecting.

Basic logic you say? 🫤

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Lord, talk about being immune to learning.

It's not all about you but how others understand the world AND are entitled to their own interpretation just as you are.. For the zillionth time, noone is suggesting you agree, rather you respect the right to their subjective beliefs & opinions.

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Then what's the problem? They believe whatever they want to believe, we believe whatever we want to believe, and everybody respects the law. Deal?

Do you respect anorexic people’s beliefs that they are fat?

Subjective beliefs and opinions aren't much use if you have been raped and need an abortion.

The problem is the false understanding that there is a right or wrong here when its really an opinion based issue.

Should people respect the law? Certainly. But interpretations just like recollections vary.

False equivalence.

Dysphoria vs dysmorphia refers to two different mental health experiences that are often confused but have distinct causes and treatments.

Gender dysphoria centres on gender identity and the disconnect between someone's internal sense of gender and their assigned sex at birth. Body dysmorphia, on the other hand, is a mental health condition involving distorted perceptions of physical appearance.

GC women don't care about right or wrong: they care about the facts.

Biological and legal fact: a woman is an adult female human being.

Opinion: transwomen are women. It contradicts the fact, but people are entitled to holding unfactual opinions.

Don't ask GC women to believe that TWAW, and don't ask them to sit by if someone tries to change the law to reflect that opinion, and they'll leave you alone.

Another take from the guber logic files.

Non sequitur. It does not follow that because opinions differ on beliefs that competing interests can't be managed.

Everyone can have opinions. You can’t have your own facts though, that’s the issue. Which you don’t seem to be understanding.