Cambridge Union debate - This House Believes modern LGBTQ+ activism fails its community

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I'm starting this thread mainly so I can post this link because Maeve Halligan is a force to be reckoned with:

https://x.com/i/status/2055119527914938412

They lost the debate, which was to be expected given the state of universities on this issue, but Thea Sewell said they got a respectable number of votes. Hopefully they have planted some seeds in people's minds.

Other speakers were Buck Angel and Helen Webberley (for the other side).

Full debate is here https://www.youtube.com/live/wE0JY9d7f-w?si=4ZIVmcxyevo0DQvB

Yes. I was genuinely surprised that ginger guy used the "called a 17 year old a domestic terrorist" line to smear Glinner given what has come out very recently in court about said "17" year old's deliberate targeting of prominent GC individuals. So obviously getting his talking points from an echo chamber. Mate, do some basic fact checks!

I wondered whether he'd understand the issue for women if a movement arose to make "ginger" the name for anyone who acts in the way stereotypically associated with red haired people and was so successful that newsreaders started referring to violent offenders as redheads ("the redhead attacked the other man with a knife"), people with red hair who ended up in prison found themselves automatically housed with the violent offenders because "that's the redhead wing", and anyone with ginger hair who objected was told to shut up because "the science says so" (based on a survey of three violent ginger people or hand waving about viking genes) and "redhead violence has always been there" based on old storybooks where mischievous or violent people often had red hair.

Thank you so much, womendeserveequalhumanrights, I've now added:

'This is what 4 years of ideological brainwashing and suppression of critical thought for fear of social ostracization gets you'
to
'a blinkered tit in dire need of a digital detox'

to my Swiss Army Knife of putdowns.😄

It's in between the little knife for cutting tobacco, and the thing for taking stones out of horses' hooves [it took me decades to find out what it was for!]

Disclaimer in case Swiss Army Knife Inc. are reading this : the above are on vintage pen-knives in my possession, I acknowledge that the modern 21st century Swiss Army Knife provides functionality in keeping with the demands of the modern world, and does not feature Things For Taking Stones Out of Horses' Hooves.

I know we must forgive the arrogance of youth when they utter repeated stupidities but sometimes I look at someone and think - this is you. I'm not sure you're going to change at all 😑

As I watched him twerping his way through his rant speech, I thought uh-oh, here's a future political leader....

😂
Ahem - I think you may have a thread to attend to. I fear in your absence there was some straight talking about word salads and biological reality and the OP may have disappeared in a huff...

I haven't dared look yet. I did tell the poster on the original thread that it spawned from** that I would join tomorrow, as I would need my brain to be fully awake..

I'm only just catching up now on MN after a busy day and already know without looking that that thread is going to get far too complicated for my pre-sleep brain to parse... 😬

**My children would be cringing right now if they were aware I was using this phrase. Apparently it's a gaming thing and I should not try and be cool.

Tell your children that nothing compared to the language on the abandoned thread. "Bullshit baffles brains" is one more notable contribution.

It's actually very funny

Sorry - won't derail this fascinating thread any more.

Adding to the thread an excellent article by Maeve in the Telegraph. The readers are impressed too judging by the comments:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/05/21/i-stood-up-against-trans-extremism-at-cambridge-union/?recomm_id=74f449d1-f194-464e-99cf-94ff0c95cfb2

archive link:

https://archive.ph/eondt

Their support for it will eventually look bad very soon. The far-left did a good job making gay people look very destructive and bad in the eyes of straight people. Just look at what has been pushed on schools, LGBT propaganda aimed at children. Virtually all normal healthy people are opposed to gender ideology being pushed onto children. LGBT had their decade (2015-2025) and now thanks to drag queen story hour, surrogacy, and destroying women's single sex spaces in the name of promoting their brothers in arms the HSTS TIMs, almost alot of people dislike them. They will go back to being rejected by mainstream society as it has for human history.

I don't disagree, except that I don't think 'far-left' is an appropriate term. I think it's much simpler, and more accurate, if 'left' and 'right' are restricted to economics. As the term is commonly understood, there is nothing left-wing, or communitaire, about gender ideology, on the contrary, in fact.

All lesbians are by definition female and same sex attracted.

Trying to change the definition of a word in order to give men access to spaces set aside for women is a favourite tactic. It worked at first because it was used in combination with vicious bullying, attacks on the livelihood of dissenters, and threats of rape and other violence towards them (and their underage children).

This was allowed to happen only because the vast majority of ordinary people didn't realise the laws were being changed by stealth.

Now, thanks to all the brave women who have gathered information, and endured grueling court cases the law has been made clear. Words still have their original meaning. Perverts and the deluded are not allowed to infiltrate opposite sex spaces, and if they persist in using women's facilities after being warned not to by their employer then they face disciplinary action, just like anyone else who refuses to follow the law.