“Fuck cops. Arm trans women.” Placard at pro trans march in Bristol

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The march is one of many the city has seen since a Supreme Court ruling in April concluded that the legal definition of a woman is only based on their biological sex and not their acquired sex.
Continues at https://www.bristol247.com/news-and-features/news/hundreds-march-bristol-solidarity-with-trans-community/

Not sure why but seems MNHQ have blocked the article photo from appearing in the OP which doesn't really help.

But also find it really strange that response are just about language.

This is a public protest with banners suggest that TW are entitled to have guns ie that they are entitled to shoot people.

And this is the "commuity" that not just Bristol Council but Labour, Lib Dems, Greens, are all prioritising over women.

We've already had the MJB being let off for encouragine violence against women, and now these thugs, and its as though somehow it has become normal.

Glinner gets arrested for the words he used online, but these men (and of course it is all men why is this even being discussed still) are allowed to parade in a public place basically saying it should be legal for TW to have weapons they can use against anyone who doesn't agree that TWAW.

And that they can of course, say everyone should ignore the Supremem Court ruling.

I wonder is police in Bristol would have been so lenient if women had held a march with banners saying all women should be armed.

I can still see the image - a number of male masked thugs carrying the "Fuck Cops, Arm trans women" . I wonder if people have reported this to the police or Prevent? Hate speech and domestic terrorism I'd have thought.

I'd suggest that many of the young, idealistic female allies attend one of these marches, see massive great blokes in balaclavas shouting abuse at women, clock some of the signs calling for death/decapitation, etc, and decide that perhaps they have other things to do next time.

I've watched any number of videos of these marches/demos that consist of angry, shouting men, and young women shrinking away with polite, pained, and mostly baffled smiles on their faces. You can kind of see them looking about and trying to convince themselves that they are on the side of the delicate, fragile, most marginalised, and pretending that the great aggressive hulks surrounding them are the ones that need protected.

What’s the yellow, white, purple and black flag?

Edited: found it’s non binary

Public discourse is definitely more aggressive, uses more violent language and aims to be intimidating. That tends (not always) to reflect men and a male approach and is undermining civil society.

It's only a matter of time before trantifa seriously injure a woman in the UK, Labour are just ignoring the problem.

They are co-opting the voice of american Antifa. " Cops" and "arming TW".

There's a middle aged man there...surely he's embarrassed?

Anne Lawrence have written a very interesting piece about this.

Really interesting article esp about narcissistic rage but the conclusion that …that clinicians and scholars should be aware of the susceptibility of autogynephilic transsexuals to narcissistic injury and should try to avoid inflicting such injury and instead label them as people who want to ‘become what they love’ has contributed to a huge misunderstanding of this cohort and facilitated greater narcissism.

https://sex-matters.org/about-us/what-we-are-up-against/intimidation-threats-and-violence-by-trans-rights-activists/

A list of the aggression, intimidation and violence. Made in 2023, there have been more since.

This one?

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10508-008-9325-1

It’s worth mentioning that Anne Lawrence is a autogynephilic trans woman, so she’s not unbiased. But Lawrence is ostracized by other trans people for recognizing that autogynephilia exists. And I don’t believe the article about narcissistic rage helped, to say the least. Lawrence was of course targeted by the very same people who targeted Bailey(the ones this essay is actually about). Imagine how furious they must have been.

The strand of narcissism [the personality kind not the staring into mirrors kind] running through the trans movement has been pointed out on this board, just from personal experience and observation, so it is interesting to read an academic article backing that up.

Anybody who has experienced narcissism in personal relationships can spot the techniques in TRAs words and actions. DARVO, deflection, attack, reverse victim and offender is a classic

'Mirroring' is another one - any time you point out something that they are doing that is damaging or offensive to you, it is mirrored back -
'No YOU are denying science'
'YOU are depriving US of privacy and dignity'
'YOU are anti-feminist' etc etc.

It's very useful to be aware of these techniques, as it shows up the shallowness of TRA arguments, which look convincing to some people, and are very forcibly or even violently expressed. Seeing them through the filter of narcissist behaviour is empowering.

The so-called 'Narcissist's Prayer'
That didn't happen.
And if it did, it wasn't that bad.
And if it was, that's not a big deal.
And if it is, that's not my fault.
And if it was, I didn't mean it.
And if I did, you deserved it.

is a perfect fit for a lot of TRA discourse.

Like Wes Streeting being the Chip King.

Interesting! Though hardly surprising at being targeted but explains the suggested response of not provoking in the first place.

Arm them, with what? Stuffed blue sharks from IKEA? Because surely they're not suggesting to "Arm trans women" with guns or knives.

I mean, aside from firearms and knife laws,, haven't the gender activists only just been threatening for the past decade that, as a group, 'trans' people suffer alarmingly high rates of suicidality? Or is that suddenly not a concern for them anymore?

I fear you may be over estimating the logical thought process that went into that scrappy piece of cardboard important political statement

Why are they wearing masks unless they are trying to hide? If they are so righteous, then why the need to hide their faces? If they are proud to be trans, then why hide their faces?

The Narcissist’s Prayer…sounds exactly like men who abuse their wives and gfs. Straight out of the abusers handbook.

I dunno, a popular chant at any of the protests I've had the misfortune to come across (including another with a sign saying "Arm trans kids" with a picture of a gun) is, "Who protects the fascists? POLICE protect the fascists!!!"

While the police in attendance are incurring eye strain injuries in the effort not to roll them.

@DrBlackbird If you haven't already heard Lawrence's appearance on Gender; A Wider Lens podcast, I commend it to you. He rounds off his showcase of irrationality & narcissistic solipsism with a reccommendation that boys unable to access PBs/ oestrogen should castrate themselves. It's staggering that such a man is taken seriously on any topic.

Thread here from the woman speaking at the event
x.com/ProfAliceS/status/1981027679332687923?t=fHOoD9AtO1Lq7K9I5T-OUw&s=19

This news article is about a totally different event. Although anger trans protests seem to be a feature of Bristol.

There thread about mounted police having to be called to control student protestors is here https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5432019-bristol-mounted-police-deployed-due-to-anti-woman-protest

At the risk of going off topic, and based on watching a lot of street documenting youtubers...

IMHO there is no "left" left in this country other than an insane, woke, hard left element that exists within labour, Lib Dems, Greens, Plaid and SNP.

The woke hard left in this country are the ones who come out to protest women speaking, or to argue for trans privileges, or open borders, or to argue for the plucky queer underdog (Palestine) against the opposive white colonisers (Israel). When they protest they chant and scream abuse and hide their faces. They make as much noise as possible.

They are never willing to express their views, let alone argue or debate them. They are happy to get in people's faces because they don't want to be filmed (despite hiding behind their masks and filming anyone who dares to oppose them or be on the fence).

They have absolutely nothing in terms of morality or facts or evidence or arguments. They have no ability or desire to think critically or persuade. Their self-perception appears to be totally the opposite of what they are (though I do suspect a fair few of them do know exactly what they are).

As a lifelong leftist, antifa and transtifa are up there with the likes of Stalin or Hitler in terms of how likely I would be to support them. (not at all, ever, any circumstances)