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Custody officer job withdrawn for GC beliefs - Gribbon (SP legal team) is his solicitor

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InterrobangsArePureBias · 02/08/2025 11:12

I wonder how many more of such actions will be launched. To adapt Jimmy Doyle’s phrase, “the spectacle of this nation’s [lanyard classes] enforcing moral auto-lobotomy as a condition of entry to [employment]”.

A prison custody officer who was sacked for saying he would not address male-born transgender inmates as ‘she’ or ‘her’ has launched legal action against one of the UK’s largest security firms.
Army veteran David Toshack, 50, was dismissed by GEOAmey during a training course only days before taking up a role as a prison custody officer (PCO) at Kirkcaldy Sheriff Court.
The father of three told a safeguarding workshop that he would not be comfortable using a transgender inmates’ preferred gender pronouns and expressed his belief that a man could not become a woman.
It sparked a horrified reaction from bosses at the firm, which employs thousands of justice workers across the UK, who said his views were against the law and company policy.

He said: ‘I’m just a normal, working class person who’s never been in trouble with the law before, not got a criminal record, lived a good life. I’ve been prepared to go and fight and die for my country, and then I have come back here and been told that there’s certain things you can’t think or can’t say.’

https://archive.is/bxjqC

Original story about David Toshack in Daily Mail: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14963309/Prison-custody-officer-sacked-refusing-call-male-born-trans-prisoners-her.html

I was sacked for refusing to call trans prisoners 'she', says officer

A prison custody officer who was sacked for saying he would not address male-born transgender inmates as 'she' or 'her' has launched legal action against one of the UK's largest security firms.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14963309/Prison-custody-officer-sacked-refusing-call-male-born-trans-prisoners-her.html

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MyrtleLion · 29/01/2026 10:12

From TT

DT - no, I can't say all of them, but i would say the majority.
MM - I have the impression that you have a dimmer view of men who transition to women than the other way around, is that true and why
DT - yes, I do believe that. And it's because men are more dangerous to women

HamSandwichIrnBru · 29/01/2026 10:12

All the stuff about autism & ROGD etc has been in the public domain for years, exposed by whistleblowers from Tavistock GIDS which was subsequently shut down. Annoying that they expect this man to "prove" it. Has the court not heard of Cass?!

ickky · 29/01/2026 10:12

I hope DT mentions the rapid onset of Men transitioning after arrest.

BettyBooper · 29/01/2026 10:14

This is utterly painful. Such a witch hunt for speaking the truth.

AnSolas · 29/01/2026 10:15

The trope

MM - homosexuality was illegal and hidden in the 50s and 60s and now can be more open about it. Can you see the parallels there?

Nasty legal positioning
" GA " would know the difference because they would safeguard train on MH issues and the sub-class of MI issues

Note the word and meaning swap

DT - I'm not an expert but I believe it's a mental health issue and that's how it should be dealt with

MM - so you think the social contagion creates mental illness and then leads to mental illness, that leads to seeking drugs, surgeries, etc

DT - I don't know if its the social contagion or if they already have mental health issues, I've heard that

MyrtleLion · 29/01/2026 10:16

From TT

and women pose no danger to men.
MM - you're generalising here, do you believe that all men who transition are a danger to women
DT - well we have to generalise when dealing with groups of people
MM - do you believe that all men who transition are sexual predators

DT - no, I don't but they are still men and still a danger to women
MM - but we're not talking about men, we are talking about men who have transitioned to women
DT - women don't sexually assault men, men assault women
MM - do you draw a distinction between FtM is a mental

MyrtleLion · 29/01/2026 10:17

From TT

health issue and MtF is a sexual fetish
DT - a MtF is either a mental health condition or a sexual fetish.

MM - another social media post, you had started with GA at this point, JKR post, I want to ask you about that, at the bottom there's a heart emoji, thumbs up, who's that

MyrtleLion · 29/01/2026 10:18

From TT

<name>
DT - my mum
MM - you spoke about moral cowardice, who is it who's displaying this cowardice, (reads out post) who is it
DT - lots of normal people I speak to, they don't believe in any of this stuff, but a lot of people in corporate society, it the workplace, in training

AnSolas · 29/01/2026 10:19

ickky · 29/01/2026 10:01

I don't know what point MM is trying to make, I think it is well established that the majority of the young girl cohort are either autistic or have suffered from abuse.

Why is he asking for citations.

So your just a big ole transphobic biggot and thats why you got sacked....

A là.... gay people exist so do TW

MyrtleLion · 29/01/2026 10:19

From TT

things, people will be whispering to each other, what rubbish this is, they won't speak out. they know that they will get a black mark, be ostracised, be passed over for promotion or like me, get the sack. They are afraid for their livelihood.
MM - what is your evidence base

SternJoyousBeev2 · 29/01/2026 10:19

ickky · 29/01/2026 10:01

I don't know what point MM is trying to make, I think it is well established that the majority of the young girl cohort are either autistic or have suffered from abuse.

Why is he asking for citations.

He’s looking for ‘evidence’ to support DTs beliefs. He might as well be asking him to prove that water is wet.

These questions make me strongly believe that MM is a clown and possible a prick.

MyrtleLion · 29/01/2026 10:21

From TT

DT - my personal experience
MM - you referred to normal people, what did you mean by that
DT - brickies, mechanics, people who don't work for big orgs where this stuff is pushed and they don't have Stonewall training.
MM - we'll come back to DEI, but you believe that everyone

MyrtleLion · 29/01/2026 10:22

From TT

who does speak out lacks courage
DT - i think a lot of it is a lack of moral courage, but I can see why, there are real consequences
MM - <post about SNP gov) why did you call them corrupt,
DT - the SNP wanted to introduce gender self ID, then being asked about Isla Bryson,

ickky · 29/01/2026 10:22

It won't go down well in court, but he is right about the governments being morally corrupt.

GardyLou · 29/01/2026 10:24

He is a strong and unwavering witness. I feel so sad for him re his daughter.

TY Myrtle, I am dipping in and out this morning, long meeting this afternoon.

SternJoyousBeev2 · 29/01/2026 10:24

AnSolas · 29/01/2026 10:15

The trope

MM - homosexuality was illegal and hidden in the 50s and 60s and now can be more open about it. Can you see the parallels there?

Nasty legal positioning
" GA " would know the difference because they would safeguard train on MH issues and the sub-class of MI issues

Note the word and meaning swap

DT - I'm not an expert but I believe it's a mental health issue and that's how it should be dealt with

MM - so you think the social contagion creates mental illness and then leads to mental illness, that leads to seeking drugs, surgeries, etc

DT - I don't know if its the social contagion or if they already have mental health issues, I've heard that

fingers crossed the judge will have noted that distinction. MM is trying to put words in DTs mouth that he didn’t say.

MyrtleLion · 29/01/2026 10:24

From TT

is he a man, fudging the answer.
MM - so any government that tries to follow the interest of trans people is morally corrupt
DT - yes
MM - <about BBC Female Footballer> <Model of the Year> these are are laughing emojis, are these meant to be jokes

DT - I'm laughing at the insanity of a female model of the year being given to a man, it's completely insane
MM - how do you know that person is a man, they may have had surgery, taken drugs
DT - no surgery or drugs will change the fact that they are a biological man

AnSolas · 29/01/2026 10:27

ickky · 29/01/2026 10:12

I hope DT mentions the rapid onset of Men transitioning after arrest.

He did kind of re biting(?) And testicles

I will bet it was covered in the training under moving into the stunning and brave class gives extra protection via safeguarding risk

But the GA team would be Fools to go there (Rapist Gender) because that shows the masssssive problem in TWAW in the prison system

MyrtleLion · 29/01/2026 10:28

From TT

MM - <puberty blocker ban> - advocates for prosecution and jail terms for people pushing this ideology, with a laughing emoji - you think this is appropriate
DT - maybe what I think is wrong is that people are pushing this dreadful ideology are not appropriate

MyrtleLion · 29/01/2026 10:28

From TT

MM - you think this serious issue should be mocked
DT - I don't know how to say this, but I think every ideology can be mocked, or its better to mock than to do actual harms
MM - do you believe that people involved in puberty blockers should be prosecuted and if convicted put in

BettyBooper · 29/01/2026 10:30

I'm so grateful that this is being recorded by TT so that in later years we can go back and look at the utter insanity of this. And there will be no way to deny that this stuff was actually argued in court.

Balloonhearts · 29/01/2026 10:31

His beliefs are against the law? What, the law that was literally just clarified by the Supreme Court? The one that confirmed transwomen are not women? That law?

MyrtleLion · 29/01/2026 10:31

From TT

prison
DT - yes, I do, some of them
MM - why only some
DT - it depends on how big a part they played
MM - <start thinking of an excuse...> what is are those colours, mine is black and white
DT - I don't know what the colours are
MM - posts dated after you started your course

MyrtleLion · 29/01/2026 10:32

From TT

and after your first DEI discussion
DT - I couldn't say exactly
MM - <Trump will get rid of trans in military, punish those involved in puberty blockers> I got the impression that you have fallen out of love with the Army
DT - I left the Army because my knees are knackered and

AnSolas · 29/01/2026 10:33

Nasty nasty nasty

How to shut employees up

Go after their family

there's a heart emoji, thumbs up, who's that

DT - my mum

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