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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

House of Commons apologises after RMW permitted to use ladies' loos

277 replies

SidewaysOtter · 14/06/2025 15:20

https://www.thetimes.com/article/e3c3967f-8712-4591-9897-fe04588000ca?shareToken=5ffa7fb5239ea83f779908352e494c14

RMW claims he had never been challenged on his use of women's loos before - well, now he has, and the HoC has acknowledged it was wrong to allow him into those facilities.

House of Commons says sorry after trans barrister uses ladies’ loo

Robin Moira White was attending a parliamentary committee meeting about the Supreme Court ruling that defined a woman according to biological sex

https://www.thetimes.com/article/e3c3967f-8712-4591-9897-fe04588000ca?shareToken=5ffa7fb5239ea83f779908352e494c14

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TheOtherRaven · 15/06/2025 15:00

SnugCat · 15/06/2025 14:57

So many people obsessing over her using the bathroom for its intended purpose 🙄 Between that and the people forcing cis women into the men's toilets I'll bet predators are loving all of the attention being off them, leaving them to do whatever they like while everyone focuses on people trying to use bathrooms as intended.

You're all for men destroying women's legal rights, protections and equalities. Got it.

You may find an MRA forum more fun.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 15/06/2025 15:01

SnugCat · 15/06/2025 14:57

So many people obsessing over her using the bathroom for its intended purpose 🙄 Between that and the people forcing cis women into the men's toilets I'll bet predators are loving all of the attention being off them, leaving them to do whatever they like while everyone focuses on people trying to use bathrooms as intended.

RMW is male. There is no such thing as a “cis woman”. Women are female and female only spaces are for women and girls, not men or boys.

murasaki · 15/06/2025 15:03

He was using it for validation and to make a point. Which is not what it was intended for.

Annascaul · 15/06/2025 15:04

SnugCat · 15/06/2025 14:57

So many people obsessing over her using the bathroom for its intended purpose 🙄 Between that and the people forcing cis women into the men's toilets I'll bet predators are loving all of the attention being off them, leaving them to do whatever they like while everyone focuses on people trying to use bathrooms as intended.

The women’s loo’s intended purpose is, astoundingly enough, to provide a space for the exclusive use of women.
RMW is male, so doesn’t belong there.
It really is so simple a three year old could grasp it. A three year old without an agenda, that is.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 15/06/2025 15:07

SnugCat · 15/06/2025 14:57

So many people obsessing over her using the bathroom for its intended purpose 🙄 Between that and the people forcing cis women into the men's toilets I'll bet predators are loving all of the attention being off them, leaving them to do whatever they like while everyone focuses on people trying to use bathrooms as intended.

Shhhh the grown ups are talking

SnugCat · 15/06/2025 15:08

Meanwhile cis men who are predators just pretend to be trans men now, who have to use women's bathrooms 🤷

Then you force cis women to use men's and pretend you're helping 🙄

Go team 🎉

TWETMIRF · 15/06/2025 15:10

Any male using the women's facilities is acting like a predator. His gender identity makes no difference as he knows he shouldn't be there and that he's going to cause harm.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 15/06/2025 15:12

SnugCat · 15/06/2025 15:08

Meanwhile cis men who are predators just pretend to be trans men now, who have to use women's bathrooms 🤷

Then you force cis women to use men's and pretend you're helping 🙄

Go team 🎉

I know TRA’s aren’t known for their evidence/receipts but also, evidence/receipts?

MassiveWordSalad · 15/06/2025 15:18

SnugCat · 15/06/2025 15:08

Meanwhile cis men who are predators just pretend to be trans men now, who have to use women's bathrooms 🤷

Then you force cis women to use men's and pretend you're helping 🙄

Go team 🎉

The Supreme Court judgement states that trans identifying females who appear male to the extent that they may cause distress to other women should use the men’s, or gender neutral facilities.

MassiveWordSalad · 15/06/2025 15:30

There is no “Gender Critical Ideology Movement”. It’s such gaslighting nonsense. The truth is that brave women have simply stood up for the rights of women and children. If the GI movement had never transgressed women and children’s boundaries none of us would even be talking about gender as a concept.

RayonSunrise · 15/06/2025 15:35

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 15/06/2025 14:58

The R from DARVO, the viewpoint that Gender Identity is a political ideology is gaining traction, so now they reverse the idea and make Gender Critical an ideology.
It shows how vacuous their viewpoint is, if it had merit it could make arguments based on them, if your entire case is based on stealing the viewpoint arguing against you and reversing it, you have no case to make.

Funnily enough, after spending 10 years seeking clarity in women’s rights policy sex realism is doing quite well. Trans activism, when it keeps trying to twist terms and obscure meanings so it can gaslight women out of their rights, is struggling.

It might be a good time for RMW to consider a change of tactics.

TooSquaretobehip · 15/06/2025 15:51

SnugCat · 15/06/2025 14:57

So many people obsessing over her using the bathroom for its intended purpose 🙄 Between that and the people forcing cis women into the men's toilets I'll bet predators are loving all of the attention being off them, leaving them to do whatever they like while everyone focuses on people trying to use bathrooms as intended.

Female toilets are intended for the female sex, not the male sex. The purpose of female only single sex toilets is to give women and girls safety, privacy and dignity away from the male gaze. The purpose is the keep males out.
No one is forcing women (using c*s is banned on this forum if I recall correctly) into the mens. I don't know where you get your misinformation from.

TheOtherRaven · 15/06/2025 15:52

SnugCat · 15/06/2025 15:08

Meanwhile cis men who are predators just pretend to be trans men now, who have to use women's bathrooms 🤷

Then you force cis women to use men's and pretend you're helping 🙄

Go team 🎉

Yes because that's absolutely not a lot of made up nonsense.

You're into men destroying women's rights. Got it.

soontobeconfirmed · 15/06/2025 15:52

Promo981 · 14/06/2025 21:26

Doubt it makes RMW feel safe in the men's loo.

Why would RMW feel unsafe in mens toilets? He is a biological man. Why would RMW think women feel safe with a biological man in the Women's toilets?

It is not Women's problem to make RMW feel safe at the cost of their own safety

TooSquaretobehip · 15/06/2025 15:56

SnugCat · 15/06/2025 15:08

Meanwhile cis men who are predators just pretend to be trans men now, who have to use women's bathrooms 🤷

Then you force cis women to use men's and pretend you're helping 🙄

Go team 🎉

The batshit crazy thought terminating bullshit line that males who are predators will just pretend to be trans men now has been debunked so many times now that it's lame people are still using it. We DO know the difference between a male and a female, and even females identifying as men still are small with shorter hands, limbs etc.

Your pitiful 'argument' does not work to anyone with an IQ above 50 and who possesses critical thinking skills.

SerendipityJane · 15/06/2025 15:58

soontobeconfirmed · 15/06/2025 15:52

Why would RMW feel unsafe in mens toilets? He is a biological man. Why would RMW think women feel safe with a biological man in the Women's toilets?

It is not Women's problem to make RMW feel safe at the cost of their own safety

I don't think it has anything to do with being "unsafe". It's just that in RMW head, he should be received like Bernard Bresslaw in drag in a "Carry On ..." caper and have all the men go "Phwooor ...." as they swoon at this vision of beauty that has wafted in.

However, disappointingly, that has never happened. And far from being a threat, men doubled up in laughter can't hurt anyone.

Obviously no one is going to laugh in the ladies. #bekind and all that bollocks.

sanluca · 15/06/2025 16:00

SnugCat · 15/06/2025 15:08

Meanwhile cis men who are predators just pretend to be trans men now, who have to use women's bathrooms 🤷

Then you force cis women to use men's and pretend you're helping 🙄

Go team 🎉

So when toilets are segregated by sex men wil say they are transmen and go into the womens

Or

Toilets are segregated by gender and men wil say they are transwomen and go into the womens

Here's a thought: teach men to behave and respect womens boundaries by ensuring no male person can use the womens and it is clear they can and will be challenged.

DustyWindowsills · 15/06/2025 16:02

SidewaysOtter · 15/06/2025 14:39

Not only has RMW shared his thoughts on this, it seems there’s a new acronym in town: the GCIM (gender critical ideology movement) <rolls eyes>

translucent.org.uk/parliamentary-altercation-highlights-crisis-in-trans-rights-post-sc-judgment/

FFS 🤦🏻

I made the mistake of straying onto r/transgender UK the other day, and found threads recommending use of the term "cis supremacist". That's us, apparently.

SnugCat · 15/06/2025 16:11

Unsurprisingly, stopping people from pissing doesn't stop rape. It's just pure bigotry and trying to dress it up as protecting women isn't working when most of the anti-trans crowd are women hating men, like Trump, Elon and Robert.

SerendipityJane · 15/06/2025 16:12

sanluca · 15/06/2025 16:00

So when toilets are segregated by sex men wil say they are transmen and go into the womens

Or

Toilets are segregated by gender and men wil say they are transwomen and go into the womens

Here's a thought: teach men to behave and respect womens boundaries by ensuring no male person can use the womens and it is clear they can and will be challenged.

So : ever shifting aims, goals and definitions. Because these people want what they want. And that can be demonstrated to not be what they say they want.

(See also: Brexit).

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 15/06/2025 16:13

SnugCat · 15/06/2025 16:11

Unsurprisingly, stopping people from pissing doesn't stop rape. It's just pure bigotry and trying to dress it up as protecting women isn't working when most of the anti-trans crowd are women hating men, like Trump, Elon and Robert.

Trans people can still piss.

Igmum · 15/06/2025 16:13

Gotcha. Damn that’s really made me smile Grin. Well done Kate and Heather and the fragrant RMW can’t say he’s never been challenged now. Keeping toilets safe for women one day at a time.

SabrinaThwaite · 15/06/2025 16:17

DustyWindowsills · 15/06/2025 16:02

FFS 🤦🏻

I made the mistake of straying onto r/transgender UK the other day, and found threads recommending use of the term "cis supremacist". That's us, apparently.

The thread there on RMW in the HoC is quite entertaining though. So many of them are clearly delusional.

borntobequiet · 15/06/2025 16:19

SnugCat · 15/06/2025 16:11

Unsurprisingly, stopping people from pissing doesn't stop rape. It's just pure bigotry and trying to dress it up as protecting women isn't working when most of the anti-trans crowd are women hating men, like Trump, Elon and Robert.

No one is stopping people from pissing. They’re stopping them using the wrong toilets to do their pissing in. Dear me.

Shedmistress · 15/06/2025 16:20

SnugCat · 15/06/2025 16:11

Unsurprisingly, stopping people from pissing doesn't stop rape. It's just pure bigotry and trying to dress it up as protecting women isn't working when most of the anti-trans crowd are women hating men, like Trump, Elon and Robert.

He is fully able to use the mens or the gender neutral toilets. Nobody is stopping him pissing.