For Women Scotland in Supreme court - thread 2

[ArabellaScott]

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5182666-for-women-scotland-heading-for-supreme-court

Loving the back row (Maya et al) eye rolling contest 😂

I don't think I've ever heard the words "pregnant man" so many times over two days before

I was going to ask if the judge just frowned and shook her head. I wasn't sure if I was mistaken. Was it upon him saying "a pregnant woman who isn't a trans man"?

Yes think you are right, may be Eileen rather than Kate Barker. Can't see for the man's big heid!

Yes, I think so.

He seems, just now, intent on ways to find protections for pregnant transmen - but not for natal women.

Onto single sex services now...

Ehrc guy being told to hurry up and finish

They really shouldn't have to rush something as important as this!

FWS need to have right of reply, not sure when Amnesty are going to go?

All this talk is about GRAs though. And there haven't been so many GRAs issued? so we are talking about a very small minority, right now.

although we can't know if we are actually interacting with one of these holders of a golden ticket because we aren't allowed to ask to see it?

But we can ask for a birth certificate? So if Alex-Beardy whoever it is flourished one with an F - can we then say "AHA! Women don't have facial hair" and exclude? or must we just say "oh nice beard, missus, come right on in?"

I think their submission is read only?

They really shouldn't be needing to have this debate full stop! What a colossal waste of time and resources.

This guy looks as though he's going to be sick. What happens when a barrister goes down with norovirus in mid-flow?

Totally. It's a bloody farce.

I think their submission is read only?

Ah, ok.

Nick Wallis tweeted this morning that AON was due to return at 15:30.

Think this guy is onto his last words now. Hopefully!

"Sex Matters submissions ( re single sex spaces) very concerning".....but we'll not have time to hear of them

And alongside that no-one is permitted to check whether the individual in question does or does not have a GRC

He's said a lot of stuff that really matters but yes, boring as batshit

I think SM just submitted something to be read, not to be heard.
FWS are the appellants so I'd expect them to be able to speak before it all wraps up. May be wrong though.

befuddled

His stuff to me seems to boil down to 'its a mess'

His position leans towards only the validation of trans experiences and not women's experiences.