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Redshoeblueshoe · 27/11/2024 14:38

I can't stop laughing at Maya's face. She is trying so hard not to laugh

AgathaChristmas · 27/11/2024 14:38

Interesting that the barrister is avoiding looking the judges in the eye quite a bit.

chilling19 · 27/11/2024 14:39

😩

Mmmnotsure · 27/11/2024 14:39

SG lawyer. I can't advance the argument. I've provided the Respondent's position.

It's a bit Brave Sir Robin ran away.

NeedToChangeName · 27/11/2024 14:39

I don't like to think how much public money has been wasted on this case and the cases that preceded it

We all know what a man is / what a woman is

GCITC · 27/11/2024 14:40

Crawford: I can't advance this any more. I have presented my clients position.

Subtext - My clients position is bollocks.

Shortshriftandlethal · 27/11/2024 14:40

AgathaChristmas · 27/11/2024 14:38

Interesting that the barrister is avoiding looking the judges in the eye quite a bit.

That is because she is having to argue in favour of points she can see the inherent problem with.

Boiledbeetle · 27/11/2024 14:40

Has she managed to answer any of the judges questions without mangling words and not really saying anything?

Appalonia · 27/11/2024 14:41

Boiledbeetle · 27/11/2024 14:40

Has she managed to answer any of the judges questions without mangling words and not really saying anything?

Edited

NOPE

Boiledbeetle · 27/11/2024 14:41

And Miss Crawford is done

ILikeDungs · 27/11/2024 14:42

Maya laughing :)

Chersfrozenface · 27/11/2024 14:42

Boiledbeetle · 27/11/2024 14:41

And Miss Crawford is done

..to a crisp.

morningtoncrescent62 · 27/11/2024 14:42

"Section 9 women". Men with a GRC? I'm finding all this a bit hard to follow. SG lawyer looks mighty pleased to be allowed to stop.

Shortshriftandlethal · 27/11/2024 14:42

The judges are obviously going to require far more detailed submissions before they can make a ruling. Surely?

Boiledbeetle · 27/11/2024 14:42

Who's the bloke with the bad feedback on his mike?

Madcats · 27/11/2024 14:42

SG lady really really wanted this to be over, didn't she?

Have any of the blue haired ones commented on this case? I'm not sure that many have a GRC.

HotSlippergirl · 27/11/2024 14:42

GCITC · 27/11/2024 14:40

Crawford: I can't advance this any more. I have presented my clients position.

Subtext - My clients position is bollocks.

I actually feel quite sorry for her. Imagine getting that job landing on your desk!

Brefugee · 27/11/2024 14:43

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 27/11/2024 14:25

I'm feeling almost sorry fro Crawford. She's so close to saying McConnel was chosing not to live as a man

that's the whole issue with McConnel though
The GRC was issued - and McConnel must then promise to "live as a man"

but then wanted a baby so did the most female thing possible and got pregnant. At that point the GRC should have been rescinded because McConnel wasn't keeping that promise.

Is there a mechanism for having a GRC rescinded (by the authorities, not for detransition purposes)?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 27/11/2024 14:44

Have any of the blue haired ones commented on this case? I'm not sure that many have a GRC

Try the "live skeet" threads on Blue Sky, they're not very impressed with SG barrister

Boiledbeetle · 27/11/2024 14:44

Brefugee · 27/11/2024 14:43

that's the whole issue with McConnel though
The GRC was issued - and McConnel must then promise to "live as a man"

but then wanted a baby so did the most female thing possible and got pregnant. At that point the GRC should have been rescinded because McConnel wasn't keeping that promise.

Is there a mechanism for having a GRC rescinded (by the authorities, not for detransition purposes)?

And she should have been done for her fraudulent application

NonPlayerCharacter · 27/11/2024 14:44

Mmmnotsure · 27/11/2024 14:39

SG lawyer. I can't advance the argument. I've provided the Respondent's position.

It's a bit Brave Sir Robin ran away.

The whole thing is kind of Monty Python.

murasaki · 27/11/2024 14:44

Brefugee · 27/11/2024 14:43

that's the whole issue with McConnel though
The GRC was issued - and McConnel must then promise to "live as a man"

but then wanted a baby so did the most female thing possible and got pregnant. At that point the GRC should have been rescinded because McConnel wasn't keeping that promise.

Is there a mechanism for having a GRC rescinded (by the authorities, not for detransition purposes)?

Rape should certainly be a reason for rescinding one, but i don't think many of those people have GRCs.

musicalfrog · 27/11/2024 14:44

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 27/11/2024 14:25

I'm feeling almost sorry fro Crawford. She's so close to saying McConnel was chosing not to live as a man

I cannot feel sorry for someone who is wilfully trying to throw away my little girl's safety.

I was so hoping she would chuck her papers in the air and say this is all bollocks I can't defend it any more.

NeedToChangeName · 27/11/2024 14:44

He addressed the judges as "my Lords, My Ladies". But how does he know if they're male or female? Cos, his clients' position is that you can't tell by looking and can't ask...........

Shortshriftandlethal · 27/11/2024 14:45

Current speaker has identified the crux of the issue. Poorly made law with unintended consequences, especially for women.

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