Thread 2: A corpus-assisted discourse analysis of linguistic transphobia on Mumsnet

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At fewer than 20 posts left, time for part two.

Thread 1: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5057460-a-corpus-assisted-discourse-analysis-of-linguistic-transphobia-on-mumsnet

Site Stuff thread that tipped off MNHQ: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/site_stuff/5057903-mumsnet-corpus

I'll be happy with a long sleeved, not arsed about the neckline.

I wonder if Aston will ever have to credit themselves with us finding a new way to voice our displeasure? Cake? So 2023. AI t-shirt designs much more 2024!

Wil t-shrut commin XXXXXXS size pls? I has no monee bt hav saved thems squished sweetcrn bits frm rat fewd.

I cannot take full credit, I bastardised it from Barry Wall and his Gender Addled Grievance Gerbils. It's a team effort all round.

No rat left behind on this board!

Squeeks wiv excitmunt

Dear lord those are ADORABLE 😍

I thought 'grievance gerbils' sounded familiar. That would be why.

I needed a break from my work. (Love the gerbil t-shirts by the way.)

Never let it be said that FWR is anything but diligent when it comes to properly citing references. I have been keeping a note of relevant items on this thread so far (just thread #2) because I thought Aston might be finding the bibliographic side of the discussion a bit much when they come to unravel what the hell this spectacularly wide-ranging dialogue is all about. I know that referencing can be daunting.

I have been using MLA9 but I may have slipped up sometimes and used Harvard by accident. Also there may have been other errors and omissions. This is a draft.

I'm quite excited because my new thing learnt today has been to learn how to cite X messages in MLA9 thanks to Barry Wall's indirect contribution (see below): a new skill I may never need to use again.

Bibliography

Barry Wall [@HeadWarriorTWM] “Gender Addled Grievance Gerbil.” X, 25 April 2024, 16:37, twitter.com/HeadWarriorTWM/status/1764993800043176316

"BBC - Radio 1 - Keeping It Peel.” Www.bbc.co.uk, www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/johnpeel/.

Blau, Rosie. “What Is the Opium of the People?” The Economist, 5 Jan. 2015, www.economist.com/1843/2015/01/05/what-is-the-opium-of-the-people.

Conan, Arthur, and Sidney Paget. The Original Illustrated Sherlock Holmes : 37 Short Stories plus a Complete Novel, Comprising the Adventures of Sherlock Holmes, the Memoirs of Sherlock Holmes, the Return of Sherlock Holmes, and the Hound of the Baskervilles. Castle Books, 2011.

Cooper, Jilly. Polo. London, Corgi, 2003.

Cooper, Jilly. Rivals. London, Corgi, 2007.

David, Croft. Up Pompeii: “Vestal Virgins.” Series 1 Episode 1, BBC, 1 Sept. 1969.

DC. “Wonder Woman.” DC, 23 Feb. 2012, www.dc.com/characters/wonder-woman.

Foucault, Michel. The Archaeology of Knowledge and the Discourse on Language. Pantheon Books, 1972.

Hellmann, Nicole. “The Evolution of Mickey Mouse | the Walt Disney Family Museum.” Www.waltdisney.org, 3 Feb. 2020, www.waltdisney.org/blog/evolution-mickey-mouse.

John Finnemore. “Cabin Pressure - Series 01.” I, 2008, archive.org/details/cabinpressures01e05edinburgh. Accessed 25 Apr. 2024.

Lear, Edward, and L Leslie Brooke. The Jumblies. The Echo Library, 2012.

Lovell, Mary S. The Mitford Girls : The Biography of an Extraordinary Family. Abacus, 2008.

Marquis, Don. Archy and Mehitabel. Anchor, 2012.

Orwell, George. Nineteen Eighty-Four. 1949. Penguin Books, 2000.

Postgate, O. (2007). The Big Book of Bagpuss. HarperCollins Children’s Books.

"Rabbit of Caerbannog - the Goon Show Depository.” Www.thegoonshow.co.uk, www.thegoonshow.co.uk/wiki/index.php?title=Rabbit_of_Caerbannog. Accessed 25 Apr. 2024.

"UV Coloration in Flowers.” Wikipedia, 19 Feb. 2024, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UV_coloration_in_flowers.

Wilde, Oscar, and Michael Patrick Gillespie. The Importance of Being Earnest: Authoritative Text, Backgrounds, Criticism. W. W. Norton & Company, Inc., 2023.

Wild applause for @SoupDragonsFriend here. Eden could learn a thing or two about bibliographies from you!

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could bagpuss
have a t-shirt too
pretty please

It does make me wonder how Astons AI copes with in Jokes across multiple threads. After all the link between this thread and the beetroot thread doesn't exist in any meaningful way that AI could determine surely?

God i hated doing my bibliographies at the end of every fucking essay.

Well done @SoupDragonsFriend I am very impressed.

Bagpuss was to expensive for the photo shoot.

And blame the AI not me for the ' in gerbils!!

little ginger
gerbil
looks
terrorfied
tshirts great tho
thanks

Right, I've been sitting in a dull and irrelevant seminar so...

Drum roll...

T shirts are here

https://grimut-gerbils.teemill.com/collection/womens/

The caveats:

The appearance is horrible. I am sorry. I made a mistake and can't change it.

Only one style for now, this will change.

The jumpers are all they do long-sleeved and in teal; the t-shirts are cheaper but not the right colour. This is one of the problems with Teemill.

Finally, I can't not make a profit on this, it won't let me. So which charity benefits? We could nominate one, or I can keep it as gardening funds, to be put in wherever needed. (I also now have a burner email and a twitter feed...)

Sorry nothing creative but ...

Even though I am not on twitter have found I am blocked of sotwe.com (is a web tool that lets you view, analyze and download tweets from Twitter. You can see the latest trends, popular users and hashtags, and explore tweets by location, date and topic)

So either my IP address or use of the word transphobia has triggered something.

But really strange tactic for a company offering to help you analyse tweets etc., if it then blocks you for some unspecificed reason.

The virtual world is getting more and more Orwellian.

I can log in and see results for transphobia, so IP address? But odd

😂😂😂

Anyone randomly happening upon that site will be clicking on the options scratching their head thinking the person running it has lost their marbles!

I do like the two click boxes that say women and women!

Maybe its a free gerbil with every t-shirt? Have they been breeding? Has a random male snuck in?

Yeah but not which MN fwr poster. You put em up on one of the tshirt selling sites, I'll buy one of each item

I can log in and see results for transphobia, so IP address? But odd

If it is IP address how would they have decided to block it.

I'm not on twitter, but do post not very often on facebook.

I'm actually not bothered as I pay little attention to twitter, but lets say I did want to do research and see what was being said across platforms on the internet, I couldn't do it (well using their services).

How odd.

So.... It's been a busy day! Which you'll discover by the time you catch up with your own post!

T-shirts available below

NonVerbalHateCrime · Today 18:15
"Right, I've been sitting in a dull and irrelevant seminar so...

Drum roll...

T shirts are here

^grimut-gerbils.teemill.com/collection/womens/^

The caveats:

The appearance is horrible. I am sorry. I made a mistake and can't change it.

Only one style for now, this will change.

The jumpers are all they do long-sleeved and in teal; the t-shirts are cheaper but not the right colour. This is one of the problems with Teemill.

Finally, I can't not make a profit on this, it won't let me. So which charity benefits? We could nominate one, or I can keep it as gardening funds, to be put in wherever needed. (I also now have a burner email and a twitter feed...)