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JKR exposing Scottish hate crime laws for what they are

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LargeSquareRock · 01/04/2024 12:14

https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/1774747068944265615?s=61&t=NHDSDk1MaF98_GOtcuLi0Q

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BloodyHellKenAgain · 02/04/2024 17:46

SabrinaThwaite · 02/04/2024 17:11

That’s the polis telt.

JK Rowling is an amazing woman.

Datun · 02/04/2024 17:48

AlecTrevelyan006 · 02/04/2024 16:42

I like this one:
https://twitter.com/Rob_ThaBuilder/status/1774959860502708291

It's hard to overstate how important - and strategically brilliant - @jk_rowling's power move was today, a first-move checkmate that effectively
neutered Scotland's dangerous new #HateCrimeBill. By openly and unambiguously breaking this law - on a massive public platform - on its very first day, she has in effect nullified the law by forcing the authorities in Scotland into a corner where they only have two options, both of which will be this laws downfall. They can:

Option 1) Enforce the law as it's written, arrest Ms Rowling, creating the world's greatest Streisand Effect and put this law under the kind of extreme scrutiny it was never designed to withstand. Her arrest and trial would be in many ways the biggest media event in years and give the deep-pocketed Rowling the world's biggest stage with which to our transgenderism on trial. Anybody regularly involved in this debate knows the massive, enormous flaws in the logic that underpins gender ideology, and instinctively understands a trial of this magnitude would be a death blow both for this law in particular, and gender ideology in general. Personally, although I don't know what's going on inside Ms Rowling's head, I suspect this route is her preferred option. I think she wants this fight. Her taunting responses all day to the smooth brained pearl-clutchers whining about her thread suggests she's run out of fucks to give and wants to have this battle out in a real forum. And what better forum than a court of law?

Option 2) They DONT enforce the law (precisely BECAUSE they know it would kick off a humiliating battle they cannot win, and would galvanize such strong public support against the law that the SNP would likely suffer catastrophic political consequences) and the Elephant In The Room of having such a massive public personality so openly break the law without any consequences effectively renders the law null and void for anybody charged with it who ISN'T JK Rowling. All anybody charged with this law would have to do would be introduce Rowling's tweet thread in court and make the extremely persuasive argument that it is being selectively and arbitrarily enforced. After all, if such a massive public voice isn't charged under this law, clearly the law is unenforceable on anyone else. In effect, Rowling has created a shield for anyone WITHOUT her massive platform and deep pockets with her thread that - so long as it remains public on @X and she remains uncharged - effectively gives anyone else a Get Out of Jail Free card.

Either way, the law is cooked: either they charge Rowling and the resulting massive scrutiny of the law will inevitably result in it's repeal OR they don't charge her and the law is in effect utterly nullified.

Heads she wins, tails they lose. This is about as close to a chess match being lost on the first move as you're ever going to see.

I wonder if TRAs will now say, of course she's not being arrested, because she was very clever to make sure she stayed just inside the threshold.

So although upsetting, it wasn't quite the frenzy of hate they first thought.

But woe betide anyone else who has a go, because they will be arrested.

Datun · 02/04/2024 17:50

This took my breath away

"If they go after any woman for simply calling a man a man, I'll repeat that woman's words and they can charge us both at once."

That's what true leadership looks like

Boiledbeetle · 02/04/2024 17:52

Datun · 02/04/2024 17:50

This took my breath away

"If they go after any woman for simply calling a man a man, I'll repeat that woman's words and they can charge us both at once."

That's what true leadership looks like

She's killed it dead!

Boiledbeetle · 02/04/2024 17:53

Datun · 02/04/2024 17:50

This took my breath away

"If they go after any woman for simply calling a man a man, I'll repeat that woman's words and they can charge us both at once."

That's what true leadership looks like

That probably means as well that the poor woman who gets arrested will also get use of some of the best paid legal representation in the land

FrancescaContini · 02/04/2024 17:55

@AlecTrevelyan006 Thanks for linking to this information - it’s really interesting.

WallaceinAnderland · 02/04/2024 17:56

Police Scotland have announced her tweets “are not assessed to be criminal” after dozens of LGBTQI+ activists reported her for a hate crime.

Dozens you say?

So, not the expected thousands, or even hundreds of allies and supporters.

Boiledbeetle · 02/04/2024 18:00

WallaceinAnderland · 02/04/2024 17:56

Police Scotland have announced her tweets “are not assessed to be criminal” after dozens of LGBTQI+ activists reported her for a hate crime.

Dozens you say?

So, not the expected thousands, or even hundreds of allies and supporters.

I wonder if they have yet to get all the reports in from their reporting centres?

duc748 · 02/04/2024 18:01

Some of these mushroom farms may not have telex!

SabrinaThwaite · 02/04/2024 18:04

Boiledbeetle · 02/04/2024 18:00

I wonder if they have yet to get all the reports in from their reporting centres?

Maybe some of the complainants got a little <ahem> distracted in the sex shop reporting centre?

Floisme · 02/04/2024 18:05

My god, she's clever.

DialSquare · 02/04/2024 18:07

Late to the thread and just catching up on all the fun!
I just can't express how much I admire JKR. She's miles ahead of the TRAs in every way and has single handedly shown this Law up for what it is. She constantly puts her money where her mouth is. And it's never for her own benefit.

RethinkingLife · 02/04/2024 18:09

WallaceinAnderland · 02/04/2024 17:56

Police Scotland have announced her tweets “are not assessed to be criminal” after dozens of LGBTQI+ activists reported her for a hate crime.

Dozens you say?

So, not the expected thousands, or even hundreds of allies and supporters.

Be reasonable, accustomed as some people are to a single complaint resulting in a Police visit to someone's home, seizure of devices, the threat of or actual court proceedings, it must have seemed overkill even to make dozens of reports…

RethinkingLife · 02/04/2024 18:10

duc748 · 02/04/2024 18:01

Some of these mushroom farms may not have telex!

Relying on underground networks and connections has its disadvantages.

<fetches coat>

BloodyHellKenAgain · 02/04/2024 18:15

I love the fact they've just reported this on PM and had a trans woman called Katy Neeves on to comment and not surprisingly 'her' voice is undoubtedly male 😂.

I like to think PM have done that on purpose

WickedSerious · 02/04/2024 18:16

SidewaysOtter · 02/04/2024 15:05

Borrowed? You’d not want them back after he’d “borrowed” them, would you?

<pours bucket of mind bleach>

Only so that I could douse them with petrol and put a match to them.

Runningupthecurtains · 02/04/2024 18:17

"If they go after any woman for simply calling a man a man, I'll repeat that woman's words and they can charge us both at once."

Jo you are superstar. Thank you so much for having our backs.

RethinkingLife · 02/04/2024 18:17

BloodyHellKenAgain · 02/04/2024 18:15

I love the fact they've just reported this on PM and had a trans woman called Katy Neeves on to comment and not surprisingly 'her' voice is undoubtedly male 😂.

I like to think PM have done that on purpose

Busy day for KN, they were on WatO at lunchtime, iirc.

ETA: Yes, it's even upthread and I commented! 😊

Boiledbeetle · 02/04/2024 18:21

No links as I'm blocked, I've had to nick these screenshots

JKR exposing Scottish hate crime laws for what they are
JKR exposing Scottish hate crime laws for what they are
RethinkingLife · 02/04/2024 18:23

As IW has evidence of these*, then I'd strongly support IW reporting such clips to the Police.

I know that this doesn't achieve much when women report such items but IW must be expecting better treatment.

*I'm assuming it's not one of the disappearing message platforms like Snapchat and it's not via WhatsApp or Signal.

Datun · 02/04/2024 18:23

SidewaysOtter · 02/04/2024 15:05

Borrowed? You’d not want them back after he’d “borrowed” them, would you?

<pours bucket of mind bleach>

Honestly, these people just cannot hear what other people hear.

In an effort to comprehensively refute what JKR was saying, Neeves quibbles over the words borrowed and stole! It's not really the point, mate.

It's one thing to invent little 'trans' kids to uphold your current behaviour, it's quite another to think you're getting that by saying you tried on your sister's knickers.

lechiffre55 · 02/04/2024 18:24

How long before the TRAs go after Humza?
It's what they do when things don't go the way they expected.
I wonder if he'll peak?

Waitwhat23 · 02/04/2024 18:26

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WickedSerious · 02/04/2024 18:27

Boiledbeetle · 02/04/2024 18:21

No links as I'm blocked, I've had to nick these screenshots

'Someone is going to get killed'.

Too much drama for a rainy Tuesday.

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