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JKR exposing Scottish hate crime laws for what they are

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LargeSquareRock · 01/04/2024 12:14

https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/1774747068944265615?s=61&t=NHDSDk1MaF98_GOtcuLi0Q

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WelcomeMarch · 02/04/2024 15:03

Datun · 02/04/2024 14:39

No, boys don't try on their sister's knickers!

And no, being female isn't defined as let's try on someone else's underwear!

The downside to Operation Let Them Speak is it you occasionally have to hear what they're saying.

I'll let off a four-year-old, having listened to the clip.

But good grief, that is so obviously a male voice. Why on earth should anyone be criminalised for being able to tell?

RebelliousCow · 02/04/2024 15:03

Morwenscapacioussleeves · 02/04/2024 14:15

It's amazing - you can hear the presenter's jaw drop open 🤣🤣🤣
world at one from 20mins in, Katieself from 25mins

as ever the radio is the perfect medium

Although Neeves got free reign to describe JK as "transphobic'; "not a nice person"; wanting to martyr herself; riling up her supporters to post on line hate etc. No attempt to modify the voice; just "wants to be happy".

SidewaysOtter · 02/04/2024 15:04

Boiledbeetle · 02/04/2024 14:46

She's actually currently on my roof redoing the pointing she did badly round the chimney stack last summer.

I'll send her to Otter when she's finished.

If you could ask her to get a wriggle on? It’s rained here something dreadful and this here downpipe isn’t going to fix itself.

Ta.

RebelliousCow · 02/04/2024 15:05

The male propensity for cross dressing has been totally re-branded, hasn't it? And what is amazing is just how many men and boys do it, and always have done.

SidewaysOtter · 02/04/2024 15:05

WarriorN · 02/04/2024 13:54

🤣😂🙃

Borrowed? You’d not want them back after he’d “borrowed” them, would you?

<pours bucket of mind bleach>

SidewaysOtter · 02/04/2024 15:07

Emotionalsupportviper · 02/04/2024 09:19

It's the lack of anything even remotely resembling a sense of humour that makes me pity them.

Even on here - when we are all joking about knitting and biscuits and facial hair and cake and spiders, they are obviously just looking round from one to another thinking "What? What's happening? Why are they discussing lemon drizzle? Where did the teapot come from? Feet? Eyebrows? What's happening. WHAT'S HAPPENING!?!?!?!?!"

I think they need to go and have a lie down.

The world must be so simple to them. Black/white, correct/wrong, transphobic/kind…no difficult nuances to navigate or humour to decipher.

Bless ‘em.

WinterTrees · 02/04/2024 15:09

Neeves simultaneously claiming to feel very sorry for JKR, who surely can't be happy, in comparison to Neeves who is living their best joyful life in their 'own truth', whilst also musing whether to press charges against JKR under the new hate crime law for causing abject distress and hurt.

Which is it Katie? Surely there's no hate crime to report if the only emotion JKR's tweet provoked was pity? 🤔 (or would that be narcissistic rage identifying as pity?)

EsmaCannonball · 02/04/2024 15:20

SidewaysOtter · 02/04/2024 15:05

Borrowed? You’d not want them back after he’d “borrowed” them, would you?

<pours bucket of mind bleach>

Yeah, this is one of those cases where 'borrowed' is certainly worse than 'stole.'

Boiledbeetle · 02/04/2024 15:21

SidewaysOtter · 02/04/2024 15:04

If you could ask her to get a wriggle on? It’s rained here something dreadful and this here downpipe isn’t going to fix itself.

Ta.

I suppose i'd better put the ladder back up then. She's been yelling to me for the past two hours that she can't get down.

I reckon by the time she's got to the airport and back to Scotland from deepest darkest Peru she'll be with you about September

Emotionalsupportviper · 02/04/2024 15:26

Boiledbeetle · 02/04/2024 14:46

She's actually currently on my roof redoing the pointing she did badly round the chimney stack last summer.

I'll send her to Otter when she's finished.

Glad you didn't let her get away with a shoddy job.

All this adulation makes her think she's as untouchable as Gregggggggg Wallace, and she can do what she likes.

Remind her that my bins need washing, will you

SidewaysOtter · 02/04/2024 15:35

Remind her that my bins need washing, will you

Oi, there’s a queue you know!

turbonerd · 02/04/2024 15:41

Just realised I was deleted.
Can I Report that as a Hate Crime do you reckon?
I HAVE BEEN ERASED!! Literally!

What a fucking shitshow, Scotland.

But then I get to say this again:

JKRowling is Queen and Legend. 🥳🥳

RedToothBrush · 02/04/2024 15:53

I take it that all these media shows talking about JKR and her 'hate crimes' will also be going on Ze List?

Nope? Just JKR who isn't allowed to leave Scotland for a Bank Holiday weekend now either.

AutumnCrow · 02/04/2024 15:57

CantDealwithChristmas · 02/04/2024 13:31

It's apposite because it symbolises the wider chaos and pratfalls of his government. In the same way, Neil Kinnock falling over in the sea in 1992 wasn't funny because it was Neil Kinnock falling over in the sea. It provided a handy visual metaphor of the pratfalls and embarrassments of his party's campaign.

I remember that. Indeed I remember thinking that instead of him jumping up and trying to do some not-very-convincing 'good-natured' banter with the press about how he knew they were going to use it to make him look terrible, he should have stayed down and pretended to have hit his head.

Then Glenys could have cradled his head and held it above the surf till the reporters ran to help, and Neil could have shaped it as an exciting skirmish with death topped with some kind of 'greatest love story ever told' narrative while he bonded with his saviours, the British press.

But I'm quite machiavellian.

NitroNine · 02/04/2024 15:59

The Murray Blackburn Mackenzie letter detailing how issues were flagged with ScotGov has I’m sure been discussed elsewhere on FWR. Lucy Hunter Blackburn has been posting about it all on TwiX, & has revealed that ScotGov decided, having promised they would issue specific guidance regarding it not being a crime to, eg, correctly sex (or “misgender”) someone, reneged on doing so.

Obviously they had an excellent reason for this volte face, given they were being advised it was needed off the back of the multiple court cases enshrining the protection of gender critical beliefs in law & highlighting that rights must be balanced etc.

Ahahahahahahahaha.

After the act was passed, the follow-up meeting to discuss the guidance was a singular event that shaped my future political career. At that meeting ministers decided that they would not add clarifying real-world scenarios involving gender-critical feminists as there was nothing to gain, and it would upset the
transgender lobby.

But of course - what are women’s rights, anyway. “Nothing to gain” - Merciful Christ on the cross & his Holy Mother weeping THE SHEER FECKING ARROGANCE OF IT 🤬

Tropics4 · 02/04/2024 16:03

I think a hash tag in in order, may I suggest #arrest me - biological sex is real!
Laughable to be arrested for actually telling the truth, imagine giving evidence in court, " i swear to tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth"...then promptly being sentenced to 7years in prison for doing so, oh what a mess they have created.

AutumnCrow · 02/04/2024 16:13

#BiologyExistsSoArrestMe

#TheEnlightenmentHappenedGetOverIt

HullaBallu · 02/04/2024 16:16

littlbrowndog · 02/04/2024 14:01

Rangers v Celtic. Imagine the hate crimes before the match during the match and after the match.

cmon Police Scotland get busy. All the MSPS who voted for this should go down to help the polis

There's a big Rangers v Celtic game coming up this weekend. They'll have to look into Nightingale police stations at this rate.

In all seriousness, it will be interesting to see if the poliss decide to go after the football fans for the bigotry that flows forth from certain elements of supporters at Old Firm derby matches. Or if it's just 'banter' because it's lads and it's footie, innit.

RedToothBrush · 02/04/2024 16:17

Its absoluetely FINNNNNEEE to upset women, but OUTRAGEOUS to upset the men.
Its crucial that we have hate crime laws to protect gender reassignment but the idea of protecting women on the basis of sex is apparently unworkable or not important.

We get it. Loud and clear.

Its like a mega phone call "WE HATE WOMEN. NO. NOT TRANSWOMEN. JUST WOMEN WHO TALK!"
[Drops voice a level] "Oh wait, what so you mean thats transphobic and not inclusive to not hate transwomen equally with other women like black women and gay women and muslim women and old women."
[Drops voice another level] "Sorry, I'm getting confused here. Oh shit, what are women again? How can we tell which ones are trans and in need of protection and which ones are nasty ones?
[starts whispering] What do you mean, the same way you can tell which ones are male which ones ones are female. How is this going to work again without us looking like total dicks?"

Boiledbeetle · 02/04/2024 16:18

Apologies if this has already been posted

https://twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1775143520602329505?s=19

"Again with the legacy guff... if your friend History thinks women don't deserve sex-based rights, healthy kids should be medicalised and free speech needs stamping out, I'm not interested in being his buddy. He sounds a massive dick."

JKR exposing Scottish hate crime laws for what they are
WallaceinAnderland · 02/04/2024 16:19

Portakalkedi · 02/04/2024 10:25

Can we report IW for the sex offender tweet if we don't live in Scotland? Clearly the Scottish police don't have any actual crimes to investigate, so I thought I'd help them out by giving them something to do.

It would appear that at least 3 unimpressed people have been in touch with IW already.

Although who the hell are Katie Aldi and Mridul Wadh? 😕

JKR exposing Scottish hate crime laws for what they are
SinnerBoy · 02/04/2024 16:20

Thanks for all the links, everyone. I put my two penn'orth on many a Twatter post now.

Surely Police Scotland haven't acted against JKR because a sensible one saw the impending shit storm and set their email filter to "Contains JK Rowling = Spam."

And I must say that you never see Katie Neeves and Bruce Dickinson in the same room, do you?

Waitwhat23 · 02/04/2024 16:21

I have enjoyed the last two days far more than I expected to, in large part thanks to JKR.

'He sounds a massive dick' ! 😆

IcakethereforeIam · 02/04/2024 16:30

SinnerBoy · 02/04/2024 16:20

Thanks for all the links, everyone. I put my two penn'orth on many a Twatter post now.

Surely Police Scotland haven't acted against JKR because a sensible one saw the impending shit storm and set their email filter to "Contains JK Rowling = Spam."

And I must say that you never see Katie Neeves and Bruce Dickinson in the same room, do you?

Bruce Dickinson Metallica GIF by Iron Maiden

😲 how very dare you! My eldest would have your guts for garters.

i have to say though although i'm not a fan of his sound and i have seen him wear very dodgy trousers (the frogskin ones😬) I think he'd draw the line at his sister's knickers.

Thank you for your contributions on TwiX. I can't see them but I'm betting they're awesome.

<wonders who would win in a fight, Eddie or the Hate Monster?>

ResisterRex · 02/04/2024 16:38

JK Rowling hate crime tweets not criminal - police
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-68712471

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