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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Women are non males now apparently..... ffs

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CampervanKween · 24/09/2023 17:57

What is this shit? Absolutely sick of it. Non males? Really???

Women are non males now apparently..... ffs
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AtrociousCircumstance · 24/09/2023 18:00

It’s astonishing that the halfwits who subscribe to this can’t see the misogyny front and centre.

Non men? Defining women as entirely empty of any definition other than not being male?

Erasure of women in plain sight. And the gutless, toadying unthink of it is horrifying.

fedupandstuck · 24/09/2023 18:21

Wtf. Why use "non-male" when the perfectly decent word "female" exists! So stupid. Especially when the featured acts are "Girls Crib" and "Women on the Mike"....

Piccalillipromises · 24/09/2023 18:23
Cat Fun GIF

DJ Non-man..? DJ Cat!

CampervanKween · 24/09/2023 18:30

It's so fucking ridiculous 🙄 I am so far over it and down the other side now, I call it out irl and don't worry about what people think of me for doing so. So far, they generally agree with me.

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EnjoyingTheSilence · 24/09/2023 18:38

Have you got a link rather than screenshot we can add comments? I’ve had a quick look in their fb page but not been able to find it

DadJoke · 24/09/2023 18:39

fedupandstuck · 24/09/2023 18:21

Wtf. Why use "non-male" when the perfectly decent word "female" exists! So stupid. Especially when the featured acts are "Girls Crib" and "Women on the Mike"....

Because it includes people who aren't women. It's for female and non-binary DJs, and includes people even GC people wouldn't consider to be women.

Summerslimtime · 24/09/2023 18:39

DJ Non-man..? DJ Cat

There's gotta be a pussy joke in there somewhere 😂

MrsTerryPratchett · 24/09/2023 18:43

Because it includes people who aren't women. It's for female and non-binary DJs, and includes people even GC people wouldn't consider to be women.

Then use that language. I've seen all sorts recently:

Women and non-binary people
Women +
Women and gender diverse people.

There's no actual need to pretend women don't exist, even if you aren't GC. WE EXIST, WE'RE HALF THE SODDING POPULATION. I didn't actually mean those caps but I'm leaving them in anyway.

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Prescottdanni123 · 24/09/2023 19:00

As long as male DJs are called non-female djs...whoops, silly me. Of course that is never going to fucking happen.

IcakethereforeIam · 24/09/2023 19:00

Or try this link. Scroll down a little.

https://www.facebook.com/soundcityconference/?locale=en_GB

I'm not on fb, so I don't know how it'll look with a log in.

It's also listed like this on Eventbrite. I think there's usually a link at the bottom of each listing that you may be able to use to complain.

Facebook

https://www.facebook.com/soundcityconference?locale=en_GB

MrInbetween · 24/09/2023 19:03

@DadJoke you do realise that those people who are not men are…..women.

I hate to break it to you but there is no third (for fourth or fifth or sixth etc etc) sex.

Just two.

MrInbetween · 24/09/2023 19:06

So I’m no longer a woman I am a non-man.

My daughter is no longer a girl but a non-boy.

My female hound is a non-dog.

My Aunt is a non-uncle

My Sister is my non-brother

And the world has finally lost the fucking plot

DialSquare · 24/09/2023 19:10

MrInbetween · 24/09/2023 19:06

So I’m no longer a woman I am a non-man.

My daughter is no longer a girl but a non-boy.

My female hound is a non-dog.

My Aunt is a non-uncle

My Sister is my non-brother

And the world has finally lost the fucking plot

Yep

Incidentally, this would make a great poem for Boiledbeetle's book!

DadJoke · 24/09/2023 19:11

MrInbetween · 24/09/2023 19:03

@DadJoke you do realise that those people who are not men are…..women.

I hate to break it to you but there is no third (for fourth or fifth or sixth etc etc) sex.

Just two.

There are non-binary people there, including those you would call men. So, not just women, even by your standards.

CampervanKween · 24/09/2023 19:15

It doesn't say women or men though does it, it says male or non male. Completely different. Even if someone has a non binary gender identity, they are still either male or female.

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RebelliousCow · 24/09/2023 19:16

DadJoke · 24/09/2023 18:39

Because it includes people who aren't women. It's for female and non-binary DJs, and includes people even GC people wouldn't consider to be women.

But males who identify as women or as non-binary are still 'male'. Does it also include females who identify as men, I wonder, but who realise that that they are not 'male'?

the boundaries are becoming blurred not only between man and woman, but between male and female. What a mess!

It also implicitly positions men/males as oppressors.

Myalternate · 24/09/2023 19:16

Being non-binary doesn’t change your sex. 😵‍💫

gamerchick · 24/09/2023 19:17

DadJoke · 24/09/2023 18:39

Because it includes people who aren't women. It's for female and non-binary DJs, and includes people even GC people wouldn't consider to be women.

So why say male, in that case?

pinkfondu · 24/09/2023 19:18

Funny isn't it how every fetus starts as Female yet we non-males!

RebelliousCow · 24/09/2023 19:19

gamerchick · 24/09/2023 19:17

So why say male, in that case?

Along with the cutesy term 'folk', TW are now referring to themselves as 'female' in a totalmdenial of biological sex. 'Woman' is supposed to be the gender identity, not 'female'.

DadJoke · 24/09/2023 19:20

MrsTerryPratchett · 24/09/2023 18:43

Because it includes people who aren't women. It's for female and non-binary DJs, and includes people even GC people wouldn't consider to be women.

Then use that language. I've seen all sorts recently:

Women and non-binary people
Women +
Women and gender diverse people.

There's no actual need to pretend women don't exist, even if you aren't GC. WE EXIST, WE'RE HALF THE SODDING POPULATION. I didn't actually mean those caps but I'm leaving them in anyway.

I'm not sure why this is so confusing to you. It includes people you would call men - AMAB non-binary people and trans women. Would you describe them as women? I understand your desperate need to say you are being erased, but you can't have it both ways.

Froodwithatowel · 24/09/2023 19:21

How ever a male person may identify, they remain male.

Using that kind of dehumanising language when you mean women and females, is unacceptable prejudice and misogyny.

CampervanKween · 24/09/2023 19:24

You are ignoring what everyone is saying it's male or female 🙄 not men women and non binary or whatever made up gender identity the said male or female person is rocking that day.

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RebelliousCow · 24/09/2023 19:25

DadJoke · 24/09/2023 19:20

I'm not sure why this is so confusing to you. It includes people you would call men - AMAB non-binary people and trans women. Would you describe them as women? I understand your desperate need to say you are being erased, but you can't have it both ways.

The issue is that they are now moving on from claiming 'womanhood'- to actually claiming they are female......Sex and gender, even for gender theorists, are two separate categories.

You have to be male to be a transwoman by definition. You cannot be a transwoman if you are female.

I think the gender ideologues have realised that people have now sussed out that woman and female are distinct categories ( and that males, even those that identify as women can be excluded from female sports categories and provisions) -and they are trying to claim new ground

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