Women are non males now apparently..... ffs

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What is this shit? Absolutely sick of it. Non males? Really???

Look dude. You take away female, you have to take away male. The default can't be male or it looks like again, men are taking over the world.

Take away your flowery language and stick to the sodden point like.

I am actually astounded that somebody would come on to the feminist board and scold women for complaining that they are now being referred to as "non male". Fuck off to the furthest side of fuck with that gaslighting misogynistic bullshit.

And that's the problem isn't it?

By including "those you would call men" not just as "not men" but now even "non male", you have just given a perfect demonstration of how there's no way under Gender Ideology to include all women (original sex-based meaning) and exclude all men (original sex based meaning).

Of course, Genderists don't see that as a problem. They believe that body sex is so trivially unimportant to what one experiences in life that there is no need to even have names for it, so they don't think it matters that they make it literally impossible for female people (in the original sex-based meaning of the word), to recognize the commonalities they experience and to organize themselves to understand and fight against them.

Think about that. Genderists believe that one of the most consistently marginalized and oppressed groups don't even deserve a name.

Now, that would be a-ok if the Genderists' belief that body sex is trivial and unimportant was right.

But it isn't. They are wrong.

Obviously, undeniably, demonstrably, embarrassingly, catastrophically wrong. As even the most cursory glance at historic and current social indicators shows.(1)

And by insisting on it anyway, they are perpetrating a deep injustice against women and girls (original sex based meaning).

(1) Well, it shows as long as we still have access to sex-segregated data. Which is the other deep injustice against women and girls. Take away our name and you take away both our personal ability to identify common sex-based experiences, and our collective ability to prove that sex base with data.

@Dadjoke sooooo it’s basically open to…anyone.

So just say that it’s open to anyone!

Oh no but what’s the problem with that??!! Ooooo let me think? Why oh why have we had to have women only categories in many areas of life. Is it because men have been dominant for centuries and over the last 100 years we’ve attempted to give women a fucking chance.

Until now that is. As we are erased.

@FlirtsWithRhinos says it better than me 🤣

I'm not sure why this is so confusing to you. It includes people you would call men - AMAB non-binary people and trans women. Would you describe them as women? I understand your desperate need to say you are being erased, but you can't have it both ways.

Did you mean to sound so fucking rude and patronising? Because you succeeded spectacularly.

Non males only no non females allowed, I assume.

Still men and women will be the ones turning up.

I'm not sure why this is so confusing to you. It includes people you would call men - AMAB non-binary people and trans women.

Rude, patronising and also thick.

"AMAB non-binary people and trans women" are not "non-male", are they?

So males aren't allowed, unless they are also NB, in which case, step right in? It's illogical and senseless, as well as (obviously) being insulting to women.

Non -males = Females.

So, basically female DJs are wanted - no matter how they identify.

So why not just say they want female DJ's to apply?

That's because they also want to position males/men as a oppressors - but haven't really considered whether this extends to females who identify as men? ( or male). Are they oppressors too? And how do they work out if they want to apply in the first place. Would they be offended at being considered female?

Basically what it is saying is that they want women, transmen, non binary men and women, and transwomen to apply.

What a load of tiring, insane fuckwittery.

I had hoped I would live to see the day that women and men would be equal in society. I never thought that would mean that women would be erased. I'm 73.

Wow that is so depressing, but I am not shocked, just angry at how "non-men" are seen and treated in society!

DadJoke is trying to work out where they left their credibility......It has gone very quiet around here.

Fuck knows, these days.

Women are non-males
Transwomen are women
AMAB non-binary people are not men, apparently
And we have always been at war with Eurasia.

Came across this quote from Hannah Arendt today:

The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction... and the distinction between true and false... no longer exist'.

So there’s only that cat upthread not getting in.

Because we've read the poster and the OP and you haven't.

It says non-male.

Male non-binaries and transwomen are male

They are not "non-male". You are attempting to justify defining female people in relation to male people. The words "man" and "woman" don't come into it.

Thanks for providing evidence that activist posters like you are trying to steal the word "female" though.

Less frivolously, this is presumably an event to talk about barriers women (sorry, ‘non-men’) face in becoming and working as DJs. And instead I suspect the loudest voices will be non-men with penises.

Which helps equality how, exactly?

@ApocalipstickNow maybe it's a non-male cat 😁

"...those you would call men".....

Why are you trying to pretend that WE are the odd ones here, that language has changed to such an extent that people no longer call people men or women, only a few dinosaurs that are left who are sticking to REALITY.

Honestly, give your head a wobble. It's YOU who is living in fantasy land.

You sound like some sort of alien, who, after having crash landed on earth, doesn't know anything about life on our planet.
Meanwhile, for the vast majority of sane people not brainwashed by the gender goblins, we can call a man a man when he is a fucking MAN.

I don't care if they identify as a fucking hatstand, if they are male, they are a MAN, it is a biological descriptor and it hasn't changed, not for you, and not for anyone.
Despite your desperate desire to enforce your gender new-speak on the rest of the population, biology remains real, gender is a made up pile of bullshit, there are two sexes, male and female is a biological descriptor that doesn't give a flying fuck about your "feelz" and people will not comply with your compelled speech.

Love it when certain posters rock up to aptly demonstrate those rules of misogyny - in particular:

8. Men are whatever men say they are and women are whatever men say they are.

Assuming DadJoke is wrong and this is a genuinely female-only event, inclusive of all female people no matter how they currently identify including trans men and non binary female people, and exclusive of male-bodied people however they currently identify including NB males and trans women, then clunky language notwithstanding I'm pleased to see there are still spaces and opportunities for "non male" people to meet, share the experiences of being "non male" and support each other.

I'm not surprised though. Because no matter how much genderists twist and turn and debase the language in their attempt to make sex irrelevant, the reality is that sex is relevant to women (original sex-based meaning) because it does drive their experiences and social outcomes. And as long as that reality exists, women are going to talk about it. So it's going to keep on breaking through whatever genderists construct in an attempt to deny it.

I hope this event being highlighted does not make them a target for the misogynists who would silence women talking about what it really means to be a women.

WE EXIST, WE'RE HALF THE SODDING POPULATION.

This!

And I’m wondering how my local vet would react if I sought advice about my non-male cat?!

And I bet men are non-females! 😂

My local Labour councillor was fawning over an 'amazing & talented actress who played Miss Haversham'. Cue a bloke with a beard smiling in front of the camera outside my local theatre...... 🙄