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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Well played Lowri

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ladygindiva · 28/08/2023 22:16

Just seen this on twitter, or "X" , and thought I'd share. I always liked Lowri Turner, even more so now.
twitter.com/ArchRose90/status/1696133230921994506?t=voB65a_oxAgi_uK9Obmggw&s=19

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JenniferBarkley · 31/08/2023 11:21

ILikeDungs · 30/08/2023 19:31

Awww, so sad the full clip is gone where we see his response to Lowri's very sensible correction: open mouth, wide eyes, pause where his brain is clearly trying to work out how it is that a WOMAN spoke, with views clearly showing up his own. He thinks nah, didn't happen...did it? Oh God it did (then presenter interjects with a "look, a squirrel" to save his blushes). Golden.

I think his reaction is very clearly being puzzled and pissed off that the host isn't allowing him to respond. If he had responded, he would have had to talk over the host and/or ignore her question.

I don't think you can claim he was silenced or gormless when he didn't actually have a chance to respond.

Lottapianos · 31/08/2023 11:27

NICE. Good for her 👍

'Live and let live' 🙄 what a wanker

ILikeDungs · 31/08/2023 11:33

JenniferBarkley · 31/08/2023 11:21

I think his reaction is very clearly being puzzled and pissed off that the host isn't allowing him to respond. If he had responded, he would have had to talk over the host and/or ignore her question.

I don't think you can claim he was silenced or gormless when he didn't actually have a chance to respond.

I am only going from memory and I am biased :) but I believe there was a blank moment in time where his brain was saying "whot? whot??" before the presenter stepped in.

If not, I am determined to create a false memory of it and use it as my happy place.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 31/08/2023 11:56

It’s completely unfair but I really can’t be doing with his tiny hands

I’d forgotten about the Matthew Wright thing.

TastesLikeStrawberriesOnASummerEvening · 31/08/2023 12:05

I didn't know that about Matthew Wright.
I used to watch all the time when he was the host, never bother now.

ColinTheGenderMinotaur · 31/08/2023 15:22

Yay! @IwantToRetire and I clocked Lowri as quietly terfy a while back.

Glad she’s feeling suitably emboldened to push back against this Nish nincompoop (Nischcompoop?)

ColinTheGenderMinotaur · 31/08/2023 15:26

from back in Feb (Lowri on Isla Adam Bryson):

(video clip on Xwitter)

https://x.com/jeremyvineon5/status/1622956843151634433?s=46&t=ibVI24cP7Ts3w2nqa22VXg

(screenshot for anyone that hates links)

Well played Lowri
MavisMcMinty · 31/08/2023 16:38

ColinTheGenderMinotaur · 31/08/2023 15:26

from back in Feb (Lowri on Isla Adam Bryson):

(video clip on Xwitter)

https://x.com/jeremyvineon5/status/1622956843151634433?s=46&t=ibVI24cP7Ts3w2nqa22VXg

(screenshot for anyone that hates links)

Grrrr. We are “trying to roll back the rights of transgender people” and we “want there to be fewer trans people”. What a shame the clip ends before Lowri can reply to that!

Lottapianos · 31/08/2023 17:12

Ayesha Hazarika is full of it on this issue. She wrote a piece a while back about how there were transwomen in her menopause support group and it was all marvellous because they gave great tips about accessories 🙄 FFS

And I'm SO BORED of people wringing their hands about how 'toxic' the whole issue is. Boo fucking hoo. There's only one side that is threatening people and trying to destroy their lives and careers. The other side are only guilty of standing up for women and girls, and our privacy, dignity, safety and autonomy. So piss off with your sad face

IwantToRetire · 31/08/2023 17:30

Ayesha Hazarika is full of it on this issue

Well she would be wouldn't she as she was one of the Labour Spads who actually worded the EA, so that trans women are treated as the priority group, and women (despite being the majority) are only permitted to an exemption for certain situations.

There was a thread about this on FWR with a link to a video from the JV show with her boasting about it. The video disappeared.

ZuttZeVootEeeVo · 31/08/2023 17:38

Its worth remembering the JV got this slot because the previous presenter wouldn't apologise on behalf of a guest who pointed out that a trans woman is born male. And was forced out.

Its worth remembering too that the previous presenter was aggressively TWAW too and shouted down many people who said otherwise.

What he didnt like is being told what to say.

I think hes cautious around children transitioning, but he spoken against womens spaces.

IwantToRetire · 31/08/2023 18:11

ZuttZeVootEeeVo - you may well be right that stubborness meant he wouldn't apologise, and I dont know that much about him. But what i have seen suggested he doesn't buy into the gender woo https://metro.co.uk/2022/04/01/this-morning-matthew-wrights-comments-on-trans-ideas-spark-anger-16386755/

and at least let KJK speak (cant imagine her on the JV show) as far back as 2018 https://www.facebook.com/TalkTVUK/videos/1162716867216579/?_rdr

ILikeDungs · 31/08/2023 18:21

Gawd it's all the same weak arguments still: "your home loo is used by males and females, this is the same as gay rights in the 80's". That was 2018 and that is STILL all they have. How does KJK keep going? FFS

CorruptedCauldron · 31/08/2023 18:27

According to this report linked below, guest host Anne Diamond issued an apology the day after the conversation involving Anne Hegerty and Paris Lees. So although Wright had let it go, I don’t think it signals that he’s an ally to women. I always saw him as someone who played Devil’s advocate, enjoying a bit of controversy. He used to patronise and talk over members of the public when they called in, and it set my teeth on edge. Just let people speak, even if you disagree, otherwise what’s the point of a phone-in where you’re actively seeking different points of view?

LOVE the Governess. Glad she didn’t get cancelled over this.

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/the-wright-stuff-transgender-anne-hegerty_uk_5b165804e4b093ac33a18b4a

'The Wright Stuff' Cleared By Ofcom Over Anne Hegerty Transgender Comment

The Channel 5 show will face no further action over the uncomfortable incident.

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/the-wright-stuff-transgender-anne-hegerty_uk_5b165804e4b093ac33a18b4a

IwantToRetire · 31/08/2023 18:43

Nobody is saying MW is an ally. The thread is giving examples of what happens in the media. Who decides what is or is not "acceptable".

Much more concerning is that Anne Diamond would take the job presumably so long as she promised to apologise. Isn't she another product of the BBC?

The issue is the power structure, whether the BBC or ITN managers who were the makers of the MW show and of the current JV show.

Even if MW can or was pompous or rude, the issue is those in a position of power told him to apologise for a guest making a factually correct statement that women are biological females. And he gave up a show of 18 years.

BinRaidingRaccoon · 31/08/2023 20:22

I've not read the entire thread but it's depressingly predicable to see people on this board overlooking someone quite problematic, just because she shares your horrible views

Well played Lowri
Silverdogblue · 31/08/2023 20:25

BinRaidingRaccoon · 31/08/2023 20:22

I've not read the entire thread but it's depressingly predicable to see people on this board overlooking someone quite problematic, just because she shares your horrible views

Maybe start by reading the whole thread, there’s a poppet. Then you can come back and tell us how awful we are for having rights. How very dare we.

AtrociousCircumstance · 31/08/2023 20:45

Caring about women’s rights and the protection of children is horrible to you?

You've shown your hatred of women and your championing of male rights. This is a feminism board - toxic MRAs like you only blight it, raccoon.

ColinTheGenderMinotaur · 31/08/2023 21:49

BinRaidingRaccoon · 31/08/2023 20:22

I've not read the entire thread but it's depressingly predicable to see people on this board overlooking someone quite problematic, just because she shares your horrible views

why not use a quote from Lowri herself, rather than some rando’s nasty twitter take?

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/local-news/lowri-turner-opens-up-over-2126280?

Well played Lowri
teawamutu · 31/08/2023 22:44

BinRaidingRaccoon · 31/08/2023 20:22

I've not read the entire thread but it's depressingly predicable to see people on this board overlooking someone quite problematic, just because she shares your horrible views

An out-of-context misquote designed to make a GC woman look awful?

While we're talking 'depressingly predictable' , is the T/MRA Playbook one of those four-page, waterproof and chewable ones for toddlers?

bonfireoftheverities · 31/08/2023 23:42

ILikeDungs · 31/08/2023 11:33

I am only going from memory and I am biased :) but I believe there was a blank moment in time where his brain was saying "whot? whot??" before the presenter stepped in.

If not, I am determined to create a false memory of it and use it as my happy place.

There were a few seconds of complete silence - I remember thinking you could hear a pin drop. As @ILikeDungs said, the full clip on Youtube has vanished. If you're going by the one on Twitter, yes, it looks like he didn't have a chance to respond.

literalviolence · 01/09/2023 00:12

Oh dear. I didn't realise Nish was such a woman hater. He doesn't come across as someone who bothered to put even the smallest bit of thought into how women are impacted. He clearly expects women to roll over to make way for the more important people. Was he raised as a mysogynist or did he become one as an adult?

ApocalipstickNow · 01/09/2023 07:02

I doubt he actually hates women.

I’d guess it’s an ingrained attitude that women are fairly irrelevant, unless you want something cleaned, or your tea cooking, or a cuddle and sympathy (or more) or whatever other need requires meeting. Like a teenager’s view of their mum.

But he probably doesn’t think women (in general) are clever, or funny, or can think for the themselves. That’s man stuff. You don’t go to a woman for an opinion!

I’ve met plenty of men who seem to think women exist just to be background characters in the story of men’s lives. Behind the scenes facilitating men getting on with the real important stuff.

He probably would sincerely tell you he thinks women are great, wonderful! But just not as great as men.

Sausagenbacon · 01/09/2023 07:50

My problem with nk is that he gets a lot of time on the media, and isn't funny at all, just trots out low-level snarkiness. As said elsewhere, he identifies as a comedian.

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