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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

KJK - big win

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BoreOfWhabylon · 03/08/2023 16:22

Payout and apology from inewspaper and Patrick Strudwick for defamation
https://www.youtube.com/live/m21_LEX9KJU?feature=share

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arethereanyleftatall · 04/08/2023 13:44

Waitwhat23 · 04/08/2023 13:04

Apparently he went on a blocking spree before issuing the apology thus deliberately reducing the number of people who could actually read it. Seems rather not in the right spirit!

Including JKR which was a bit of a mistake 😂

Calistano · 04/08/2023 13:50

The podcast with Jordan Peterson was great, she wasn't lying when she said it was the most cut, an hour longer on Spotify. I used to really dislike Peterson but tbh I don't mind him these days, despite him being occasionally actually ridiculous.

popebishop · 04/08/2023 13:54

Anyway, jump on me all you like but the connection between this issue and the far right is very off putting for left leaning women like me

I completely agree with you @Kendodd .

The fact that it's working to put women off is precisely the reason they are doing it - making up connections.

Try not to fall for it.

Florissante · 04/08/2023 14:01

Anyway, jump on me all you like

I love martyr posts. Disagreeing with someone is not the same as "jumping" on them. If there are personal attacks, please report them to MNHQ.

ArabeIIaScott · 04/08/2023 14:10

I apologise for correcting SPAG, that was petty of me.

I stand by the point that to suggest a 'connection between feminism and nazism is just spurious nonsense.

popebishop · 04/08/2023 14:22

Look, at the heart of it, I know how much Nazi beliefs and actions completely repulse me and I consider myself very much Anti Nazi. Like many people.

I also believe in feminism and that sex matters.

If anyone tries to tell me that my beliefs about any other class of people somehow magically change because a person (any person) who also believes sex matters also believes racist, ableist, or violent shit, then they are lying.

This, from a movement who advocate decapitating people whose beliefs they pretend to disagree with (in fact, many TRA beliefs can be summarised as 'a woman gender requires a female body, or a facsimile thereof') and who have made sex and any sexuality other than 'bi' literally meaningless.

This is all they have. They don't have arguments. They have violence and dishonesty.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 04/08/2023 14:43

Anyway, jump on me all you like but the connection between this issue and the far right is very off putting for left leaning women like me.

so puzzling

are you suddenly going to think women prisoners should be banged up with rapists just because someone liked a tweet from someone you disagree with or something?

what a way to live your life

StephanieSuperpowers · 04/08/2023 14:50

Yep, and it's the scientific evidence that people can change sex that we've all been looking for. So we were wrong all along.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 04/08/2023 14:50

As far as I can make out, some people think like this.

I identify as left-wing and I belong to the Labour Party. If the Labour Party tells me to think X, I think X. I may have some doubts about it, but the Tory Party thinks Y, and I hate the Tories, so although I naturally lean to believing Y as well, that's wrong of me. Never mind the evidence. What matters is sticking to my party.

Is that about right?

StephanieSuperpowers · 04/08/2023 14:52

I think it's simpler. Whichever side shouts NAZI first is the good side.

Florissante · 04/08/2023 15:00

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 04/08/2023 14:50

As far as I can make out, some people think like this.

I identify as left-wing and I belong to the Labour Party. If the Labour Party tells me to think X, I think X. I may have some doubts about it, but the Tory Party thinks Y, and I hate the Tories, so although I naturally lean to believing Y as well, that's wrong of me. Never mind the evidence. What matters is sticking to my party.

Is that about right?

Yes. It's political tribalism. A simpler way of putting your post, @Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g , would be: I believe X but my political party says Y so I'll vote for them because I support them blindly.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 04/08/2023 15:09

Yes, it's all very binary (ironically). I have the impression it's even worse in the US.

ArabeIIaScott · 04/08/2023 16:16

Women turned up to protest the fact that everyone is stopping them from talking, threatening and intimidating them, trying to remove their rights.

Trans activists turned up to shout at women.

Nazis turned up to shout at trans activists.

And the whole subsequent shitshow is blamed on women, of course. All they did was meet to talk about their rights.

By the same token, the woman and girls in the Wi Spa who complained about the sex offender being naked in the spa with them were directly responsible for the subsequent riots in the streets - for the religious protestors, antifa, and whatever other people turned up to fight each other.

That's how it works, right?

So the little girls and women in the Spa should never have said anything.

As Laurie Penny said, we should teach our daughters to look the other way.

Violence Erupts Among Protestors At A Koreatown Spa

Rick Montanez reports from the WI Spa in Koreatown where dueling protestors, some in support of a trans customer that others complained about, and some oppos...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVqI1C2zpvc

IwantToRetire · 04/08/2023 16:18

Dom Lucre is not a good person,

I think you have totallly missed the point.

Irrespective of your opinion of the tweet that was retweeted, what it illustrates is the extreme lengths groups like Actual Gender Critical Left will go to to try and attack KJK.

The whole dialogue on their facebook page shows it.

And yet this is a group that presumes to sit on judgement on others, and unfortunately some then paraphase what they say and come out with statement's like KJK supports nazi or whatever.

I honestly dont know why she retweeted it. Maybe she has no idea who he is.

But one retweet is the basis to then say:

" She's a full-on far right disinfo peddler now. "

" I keep wondering how far she has to go to finally get kicked off Wolf's advisory council. "

" She and the SFW account are sharing a debunked antisemitic conspiracy theory as if it is true.

… I am long past the point of thinking anything would make a difference to her supporters. "

Although what in fact was really amusing is that the main protagonist in trying to whip up some sort of frenzy against KJK just got comments back saying how confusing what she was saying was.

And just to say as other have said on other threads, just because the source of news is right wing (look how many articles by the Times and Telegraph get quoted here) doesn't mean it ceases to be news.

If the news is in fact incorrect, seems strange that in response to the retweet nobody pointed this out.

Helleofabore · 04/08/2023 16:38

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This has been deleted by MNHQ for breaking our Talk Guidelines.

So, was Barcenas there representing the 'Proud Boys' or was he there in another capacity? What did he say? Have you got a transcript? Can you point out exactly what he said that you disagree with?

If you agree with him on some issues, does that make YOU a Proud Boy supporter? How about if he says the sky is blue?

And you have ONE person out of how many who have spoken? One! At open mic events across the world where hundreds have now spoken. Was he invited specifically? Or did he just turn up like all the other speakers and took his turn?

Please do clarify.

Helleofabore · 04/08/2023 19:53

I have now seen what he has said. I don’t agree with some of what he said, but I really would like it clarified what Barcenas said that you disagreed with specifically @Quen.

Boiledbeetle · 04/08/2023 21:37

IwantToRetire · 04/08/2023 16:18

Dom Lucre is not a good person,

I think you have totallly missed the point.

Irrespective of your opinion of the tweet that was retweeted, what it illustrates is the extreme lengths groups like Actual Gender Critical Left will go to to try and attack KJK.

The whole dialogue on their facebook page shows it.

And yet this is a group that presumes to sit on judgement on others, and unfortunately some then paraphase what they say and come out with statement's like KJK supports nazi or whatever.

I honestly dont know why she retweeted it. Maybe she has no idea who he is.

But one retweet is the basis to then say:

" She's a full-on far right disinfo peddler now. "

" I keep wondering how far she has to go to finally get kicked off Wolf's advisory council. "

" She and the SFW account are sharing a debunked antisemitic conspiracy theory as if it is true.

… I am long past the point of thinking anything would make a difference to her supporters. "

Although what in fact was really amusing is that the main protagonist in trying to whip up some sort of frenzy against KJK just got comments back saying how confusing what she was saying was.

And just to say as other have said on other threads, just because the source of news is right wing (look how many articles by the Times and Telegraph get quoted here) doesn't mean it ceases to be news.

If the news is in fact incorrect, seems strange that in response to the retweet nobody pointed this out.

I can't believe people actually have the time, the inclination or the stamina to go through peoples tweets and look at whose tweets they retweeted and which tweets they have liked.

Take KJK, she's currently got over 62000 tweets/retweets on her account and she has liked over 17500 tweets.

Honestly if your wasting your time doing that you need to have a serious word with yourself!.

(Liked tweet as an example in the below is purely coincidental. Honest)

KJK - big win
KJK - big win
Kucinghitam · 05/08/2023 07:27

Basically we're in Monty Python "Burn the witch!" territory Grin
https://www.qedcat.com/moviemath/holy_grail.html

Monty Python and the Holy Grail

https://www.qedcat.com/moviemath/holy_grail.html

Helleofabore · 06/08/2023 08:08

So no? We have a plopper come and plop down a man who was allowed to speak at the end of an event but who cannot tell us what part of what that man said that they disagreed with?

How very unusual in these tribal times.

Do you always advocate to reject what someone says because of their politics? So, if a person says ‘this surgeon should stop giving children, these are patients under 18, double mastectomies, you will reject the message and denounce it as false because of the person’s politics?

Doesn’t that say more about you than anyone else?

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