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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Urinals closed in men's toilets

64 replies

Glamourreader · 17/07/2023 07:37

Yesterday I saw a sign on the men's toilets in my local shopping centre saying that the urinals were now closed to increase inclusivity for trans-men. Has anyone else seen this near them?

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WhiteFire · 17/07/2023 07:57

I wonder if trans will be the new COVID, as in, provide poor or reduced service and then claim it is for trans inclusion.

Problem withe urinals? We won't pay to fix it we'll just say we are being inclusive.

Flickersy · 17/07/2023 07:59

No. What shopping centre was this?

Sugarfree23 · 17/07/2023 08:02

WTF that will just lead to ques for the men's but at least its impacting the men folk rather than the usual impacting women.

Woman2023 · 17/07/2023 08:08

How is inclusivity helped by withdrawing facilities? Men are catered for on the basis that most will use a urinal. There won't be enough cubicles to cope.

Men might actually discover how annoying it is to queue when you need to pee.

Elbowsandknees · 17/07/2023 08:09

I don’t believe this.

midgetastic · 17/07/2023 08:09

You don't remove stairs for disabled inclusion
You add a ramp

How stupid

HairyKitty · 17/07/2023 08:10

How on earth does this increase inclusivity for trans men?? Plenty of men use cubicles for a pee or a poo 🙄. All it’s succeeded in doing is making fewer toilet spaces available.

On the other hand, even though it’s ridiculous, I would be quite pleased to see this rolled out nationally as the complaints from men about their lost urinals is sure to have more impact than complaints from women about males invading their private toilet spaces.

RubbishRobotFromTheDawnOfTime · 17/07/2023 08:11

Well how bizarre. Where? Brighton? Bristol? If it really is happening, it’s nice to see men affected by this for once at least.

cranberriess · 17/07/2023 08:13

Ridiculous

Myalternate · 17/07/2023 08:24

My local shopping centre has signs up indicating that there may be a male attendant in the Women’s toilets.

Glamourreader · 17/07/2023 08:29

I wouldn't like to say which town the shopping centre is in, but it is a university town. I assume it would make using men's toilets less intimidating if everyone was peeing in private in cubicles?

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Sugarfree23 · 17/07/2023 08:29

Myalternate · 17/07/2023 08:24

My local shopping centre has signs up indicating that there may be a male attendant in the Women’s toilets.

That's quite common, motorway service stations too. They have one attendant looking after the 3 sets of loos and any showers.

funnelfan · 17/07/2023 08:33

Really? It’s the kind of thing I’d expect to see making headlines.

Myalternate · 17/07/2023 08:35

Glamourreader · 17/07/2023 08:29

I wouldn't like to say which town the shopping centre is in, but it is a university town. I assume it would make using men's toilets less intimidating if everyone was peeing in private in cubicles?

Would men bother closing a cubicle door unless it’s a sit down job?

I can’t see removing urinals makes it more inclusive.

Froodwithatowel · 17/07/2023 09:43

If this is the case, then yes I'm suspicious of real motives. But if it's about protecting women who identify as men from having to walk past men with their penises out then really it's confirming that mixed sex toilets don't work.

However men will get cross about this, and generally when a man kicks off it has a much bigger effect than a woman.

MathiasBroucek · 17/07/2023 09:49

So now the queue for the gents will be just as long as the one for the ladies... 🤔

Glamourreader · 17/07/2023 09:50

I'm hoping the papers pick up on it, I didn't dare take a photo as there were too many people about.

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Helleofabore · 17/07/2023 09:52

I suspect that men will be complaining. And it will be quickly reversed.

PaterPower · 17/07/2023 09:54

The problem is that cubicles in male toilets are often vandalised (more in pubs than shopping centres tbf) and some men will piss all over the seats and floor, which make them… unappealing… to use for those of us that weren’t raised in a frigging barn.

The centre will have to be all over the cleaning and maintenance to make this work, and it’ll be interesting to see if currently unpeaked men start taking notice.

viques · 17/07/2023 09:54

Woman2023 · 17/07/2023 08:08

How is inclusivity helped by withdrawing facilities? Men are catered for on the basis that most will use a urinal. There won't be enough cubicles to cope.

Men might actually discover how annoying it is to queue when you need to pee.

Some will no doubt do what they usually do and find a wall! Or temporarily identify as women to use our toilets.

Redshoeblueshoe · 17/07/2023 09:54

This is exactly what we need. Make it a pain for men.

I bet it gets resolved quickly

ZairWazAnOldLady · 17/07/2023 09:58

I’m confused as to why it would be terrifying to photograph or the town needs to be unmentionable. Seems an odd reason to remove urinals.

PaterPower · 17/07/2023 09:59

Some will no doubt do what they usually do and find a wall!

I’ve been in sports grounds where men were pissing in the sinks - that’s not even uncommon.

I haven’t yet seen a bloke shifting in the sink, but my Dad did once. He (the shitter) was copping a lot of abuse from the other men in there apparently, but that was all a bit late.

TheOnlyLivingBoyInNewCross · 17/07/2023 10:01

If you identify as a man and wish to use men’s facilities, then surely that includes all elements of those facilities including urinals? After all, if you genuinely believe yourself to be male, the sight of a fellow male peeing in a urinal shouldn’t make you uncomfortable?

As an adult human female, I have discovered that no one in power really gives a shit which bits of that I would like to have and which bits make me uncomfortable anyway.

Thelnebriati · 17/07/2023 10:10

Is it a real sign or a protest? You can't close urinals, they're just in a room with the cubicles.

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