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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

AdultHumanFemale - Edinburgh - 26 Apr

85 replies

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 26/04/2023 16:59

Anyone going?

OP posts:
Shelefttheweb · 26/04/2023 21:39

Why does the BBC call it a Trans film? It is about women.

ArabeIIaScott · 26/04/2023 21:46

PopGoesTheProsecco · 26/04/2023 21:27

Sorry - kind of new on this board.

is this the film they were going to show? I just Googled the title and it came up with this: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=94HFMSm-JBo

yep

IamTheActualNickCavemaybebutprobablynot · 26/04/2023 21:47

Shelefttheweb · 26/04/2023 21:39

Why does the BBC call it a Trans film? It is about women.

Because the BBC are finally so confused at what is the correct thing to say they are now just talking complete gibberish

PopGoesTheProsecco · 26/04/2023 21:58

ArabeIIaScott · 26/04/2023 21:46

yep

Thanks - am watching now.

BreadInCaptivity · 26/04/2023 22:00

MishyJDI · 26/04/2023 21:13

It’s probably a good thing as it stops social contagion of terfness to the general population. There is enough out there already spreading fear and derision

No, it gets news coverage that makes TRA's looked unhinged, aggressive and unreasonable.....and ultimately gets people to come to a conclusion that women have a point in wanting to retain single sex spaces given the poor standards of behaviour of those advocating for them open to men.

Frankly as distressing being on the receiving end of such protests can be, they don't detract from the GC cause, they amplify it - significantly.

The whole "vulnerability" narrative loses all gravitas in the face of screaming, masked, aggressive activists with signs threatening to kill/hurt women and people are watching and listening.

You might not be willing to read the room, but there is a fair to middling chance I'd say that despite the total incompetence of the Tory administration, that the Labour Party will lose the next GE precisely because they refuse to distance themselves from an ideology that increasingly more and more people are becoming aware of and think is utter self indulgent wankary.

ArabeIIaScott · 26/04/2023 22:06

IamTheActualNickCavemaybebutprobablynot · 26/04/2023 21:26

Bollocks! That's the last time i name change to wind up Arabella!

😍

yourhairiswinterfire · 26/04/2023 22:08

There is enough out there already spreading fear and derision

Says Mishy, who comes to this board and laughs about male violence against women.

PopGoesTheProsecco · 26/04/2023 22:18

Thanks Mishy for piquing my interest which encouraged me to watch the film.

Am half way through and think I identify as a MERF.

BreadInCaptivity · 26/04/2023 22:19

yourhairiswinterfire · 26/04/2023 22:08

There is enough out there already spreading fear and derision

Says Mishy, who comes to this board and laughs about male violence against women.

Quite - which I why I value their contributions to this board.

It's all out there for everyone to see, much like a flasher in a mac who thinks they are clever hiding in plain sight in front of their chosen target wanging their willy around but has failed to notice the cctv.

IamTheActualNickCavemaybebutprobablynot · 26/04/2023 22:21

ArabeIIaScott · 26/04/2023 22:06

😍

I'm stuck with it now for the entire thread! No one will know who is actually responsible for my witty remarks!

PopGoesTheProsecco · 26/04/2023 22:23

The more I watch this film, the more I realise that women’s rights is the hill I’m willing to die on.

IamTheActualNickCavemaybebutprobablynot · 26/04/2023 22:30

PopGoesTheProsecco · 26/04/2023 22:23

The more I watch this film, the more I realise that women’s rights is the hill I’m willing to die on.

It's definitely the hill I've chosen

PopGoesTheProsecco · 26/04/2023 22:31

I wonder why aggressive people are trying to intimidate women to prevent them from watching it…

PopGoesTheProsecco · 26/04/2023 23:24

yourhairiswinterfire · 26/04/2023 22:08

There is enough out there already spreading fear and derision

Says Mishy, who comes to this board and laughs about male violence against women.

OMG - that’s truly abhorrent.

IamTheActualNickCavemaybebutprobablynot · 26/04/2023 23:32

Isn't it!

PopGoesTheProsecco · 26/04/2023 23:35

Sorry - as I said, I’m new to the board, so please be kind. But it seems that Mishy wants males to have access to female spaces. Am I reading this correctly?

EdinburghName · 26/04/2023 23:38

I've just come across Alumni for Free Speech https://affs.uk/ which looks as though it may be of interest to some Edinburgh alums here. I don't know anything about it though.

Home - Alumni for Free Speech

Our universities, once great champions of free speech, academic freedom & diversity of viewpoint, are increasingly becoming their opponents. Join AFFS. ✅

https://affs.uk

Boiledbeetle · 26/04/2023 23:47

PopGoesTheProsecco · 26/04/2023 23:35

Sorry - as I said, I’m new to the board, so please be kind. But it seems that Mishy wants males to have access to female spaces. Am I reading this correctly?

I've changed back to my real name rather than Nick Cave so you know who you are talking to.

@MishyJDI will I'm sure be happy to tell you themselves where they sit on certain topics.

But it is safe to say the majority are not in agreement with a lot of the viewpoints Mishy has on topics.

Redbird87 · 27/04/2023 05:21

MishyJDI · 26/04/2023 21:13

It’s probably a good thing as it stops social contagion of terfness to the general population. There is enough out there already spreading fear and derision

Terfness isn't spread by terfs, each one is the result of a woman either directly abused by people like this or who have witnessed others ripped to shreds, called names anyone else would have their teeth knocked out for, or even facing deaths threats.

I was for trans rights when I was transmasc, until people like this mocked me for being abused by a tw and I noticed how common it is for even "queer" women to be thrown under the bus in the name of centering men.

Every "terf" (MOST not even radical feminists!) is the result of a light bulb moment like that. No one looks at the vitriol being sent to us and thinks that's a fun way to go about life, be reasonable.

MishyJDI · 27/04/2023 09:39

PopGoesTheProsecco · 26/04/2023 23:35

Sorry - as I said, I’m new to the board, so please be kind. But it seems that Mishy wants males to have access to female spaces. Am I reading this correctly?

No. But trans women are not the threat that people are trying to make them out as.

they are such a small minority. Leave them be and stop seeing them as an existential threat when they are simply not.

hope that helps.

AlecTrevelyan006 · 27/04/2023 09:44

Trans women are the gateway for men to access women’s spaces.

IamTheActualNickCavemaybebutprobablynot · 27/04/2023 09:47

MishyJDI · 27/04/2023 09:39

No. But trans women are not the threat that people are trying to make them out as.

they are such a small minority. Leave them be and stop seeing them as an existential threat when they are simply not.

hope that helps.

You are right a lot of transwomen probably aren't a threat But as we keep all men out of female spaces because it's recognised that it's not possible to differentiate between the safe men and the men with bad intentions in my opinion that includes the men who for whatever reason, good or bad, declare themselves a woman and demand access to female spaces.

And honestly from a safety point of view I find the fact that some men, now identifying as women, are so adament they get into our spaces that I can't help but think they have other reasons than just wanting to pee for being in there.

We can't tell the good transwomen from the bad transwomen so like the rest of the men they can all stay out of the single sex women's spaces.

IamTheActualNickCavemaybebutprobablynot · 27/04/2023 09:48

Bollocks forgot to change name again!

Shelefttheweb · 27/04/2023 09:48

MishyJDI · 27/04/2023 09:39

No. But trans women are not the threat that people are trying to make them out as.

they are such a small minority. Leave them be and stop seeing them as an existential threat when they are simply not.

hope that helps.

Transwomen are five times more likely to be incarcerated for sex offences than other men.