Please help! Gender not sex on a school 'protected characteristics' poster, just spoken to the Head!

[Vebrithien]

Good morning,

I started this thread before Christmas

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4684558-today-i-found-my-bravery?page=1

The overview is that my DD's primary school is displaying posters by No Outsiders, which are supposed to show the 9 protected characteristics, but shows gender, not sex.

The (male) deputy head I mentioned it to, before Christmas, has not got back to me. The posters are still there.

I summoned up my courage this morning, and spoke to the Headteacher. She seemed surprised, as I said I'd already mentioned it to one deputy head, and that I'd picked up on it due to my school expecting Ofsted, and reissuing our equality training.

The Head said that it was surprising, as No Outsiders were an organisation whose specialism was equalities.

I replied that the EA2010 says sex, not gender. I also mentioned that there were some concerning resources produced by them, including an assembly where a dad wants to offer violence to children who do not accept his trans child. (I know no more than this)

The Head is going to talk to her other deputy head, whose responsibility this is, and to try to put us in contact.

Where do I do from here?

Can any one help me with evidence? What particularly is dodgy about No Outsiders?

Is there anything that states that schools mustn't misrepresent the EA?

Is there any DofE (or whatever it's called now) guidance for schools on the resources they used or how they represent the EA?

And, how should I go about finding out if the school uses other No Outsiders resources?

Please help, I want as much evidence as I can.

Still shaking with adrenaline from speaking to the Head!

I don’t follow trash popular culture - have better things to do

You leave the following groups of people on three different unpopulated isolated islands in the Pacific. There’s no method of escape, but these groups have every means to survive. Which island is the only one to have humans on it in 100 years time?
Island A. Transwomen and men
Island B. Transmen and women
Island C. Transwomen and transmen

Sex is binary. A and B are, of course, impossible.

Of course C will only be possible these people have not gone through surgery of removing their sex organs, and for the transmen, their breast tissue to sustain babies.

This is not transphobic. It’s reality.
The sad thing is that there now appears to be a belief that people can actually change sex.

One hung I’m still intrigued about it that a couple of pages ago a poster said those opposing me were more likely to be lesbians.

can someone explain why? Is it because they (some of them) have no need for males in society and are therefore less sympathetic to those they regard as males. Herero women, in contrast, have more sympathy for males as most have an emotional and sexual desire for them?

just curious

‘Thing’ not ‘hung’ :)

Are you really stating (out loud) that women who do not believe that TWAW must hate men and that is the explanation of why they don't put men's wishes first. With an added layer of lesphobia?

Has an OP ever asked a thread not display poster to piss off?

What would likely happen if they did? (Ask, that is)

One thing I'm still hung up on is, if my child wants to know what gender they are, how do they find out?

The answers usually make vague reference to 'feeling like a girl/boy' which is circular - you need to know what a girl/boy is to know if you feel like one.

Can someone explain why?

Too many homophones on this thread ...
Just joining in quickly @ArabellaScott to say 😂

I don’t follow trash popular culture - have better things to do

Oh evidently

I'm going back to the songs. Here's my contribution. It's got Steve Marriott's vice as an added attraction.

Whilst Steve had many vices, I obviously meant voice!

This thread is nuts! And I have experienced plenty of deja vu.

That's really good, DialSquare!

If we're on hippy music, how about:

This thread has made me say this quite often. And George Harrison is FIT.

I mean, he has a lovely voice.

Feeling a bit bewildered here.
Plenty of references are passing over my head.

Nice songs.

How am I going to not explode with rage, as soon as I speak to the Deputy head? How do I keep my calm, explain my concerns and not rant on?

There are plenty of posters (thread) who's usernames I recognise from this board. I actually feel quite honoured to have you on my thread.

Sorry, OP.

To prep: Write everything down. Don't feel you have to raise everything at once - in fact it may be better to do all of this via short emails?

Busy day today so just catching up on threads....

WTF??

If you do it via email, then 1. there is a record and 2. you are more in control.

would that work? Might take some of the emote out of it?

I'd make a list of bullet points that you want to raise, most important points first and just work through them. Either via email or face to face. Be clear about what your issues are and what response or outcome you'd like to see.

The only concern I have is that as a general rule, the school doesn't use email for contacting staff, but Class Dojo (a website/app). I could message the Deputy head via this, very easily, but all messages disappear at the end of the academic year.

There are no published emails for individual teachers, you are expected to email the main office, and then it might get forwarded to the teacher. They do have individual emails, but these are not normally shared with parents.

Wow, this thread - women should lump it 'for the greater good' 

In turns horrified by the blatant misogyny and quite amused at the classic flounce and repeated return when demolished in an argument (but has much better things to do than following trash 'pop' culture), lol.

Anyway, thanks @EastLondonObserver, you've been a great help in peaking the lurkers

Have you got the contact details for the governors OP? It can be another route to raise concerns?

Oh, no worries, it's been a hell of a ride today 😆
I've been reminded just how much some men hate women.

It's made me even more determined to try and protect my DD from this batshitery.

I've not RTFT, you may already have this:

www.transgendertrend.com/no-outsiders-queering-primary-classroom/