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Would you want your child to be taught by someone who looked like this?

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grannyjacob · 16/09/2022 15:24

How can this be allowed?

twitter.com/ripx4nutmeg/status/1570750665680621568?s=21&t=lHOFZ9inVPAhUFVaCRJBXg

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ShamedBySiri · 17/09/2022 21:37

Friend's DS thinks it's hilarious. Not sure how I feel about that.

It's terrible. I'm going to struggle to articulate this but school boys (and girls) learning about awful stereotypes like this is terrible for women and for those men who might want to live a quiet life as what used to be known as a transsexual and also for women. Especially women with an unfashionable body type. I can't explain clearly why I think this is so bad for the young boys and girls at this school and God knows my teenage self and friends would have been merciless with the jokes but in these days of stereotyping and pushing young children who don't conform into a medical pathway this is really unhelpful.

littlbrowndog · 17/09/2022 22:41

That dude living his life

children seeing that dude living his perverted life and teaching them

and all the adults too frightened to say do one you pervert

how did it come to this ?

JulesJules · 17/09/2022 22:57

What a fucking knob

NitroNine · 18/09/2022 05:10

@MrsOvertonsWindow
Her application to the Human Rights Tribunal was refused the first time she tried to lodge it & though she was granted leave to try again it was with strict additional criteria (unsure as to what). They apparently began a hearing in February 2018 but no decision has ever been published. Possibly the university paid her off to get her to withdraw the complaint; or she went out of bounds & got binned… I’m not sure if the Tribunal could suggest mediation at that stage, but if she agreed to mediation rather than going straight into litigation & worked something out there, no decision would appear either. (I quite like they offer mediation; but yes, they’re a completely captured institution.)

Musomama1 · 18/09/2022 08:11

A woman typically wouldn't get a breast enlargement that big unless she was working in the porn industry and/or showing them off online. You can also see nips in every photo.

That the school can't say this is deeply inappropriate beggars belief.

For the students, I'd struggle in that class to take it seriously, kids are distracted by far less.

EsmaCannonball · 18/09/2022 10:48

Aside from the sexual inappropriateness of it, if Trans Women Are Women then would any other woman get away with wearing gigantic prosthetic breasts and skin-tight cycling shorts to work in this school? It's just another example of women and girls having to live with the consequences of society saying TWAW while simultaneously thinking of them and treating them as a special caste of men.

RinklyRomaine · 18/09/2022 10:51

I've seen posts from a parent with a student in his class on twitter over night basically agreeing that while her child and his friends find it uncomfortable, it's all fine, "she" is a good teacher and hopefully the boys will get with it. Canada is beyond help.

Datun · 18/09/2022 10:56

RinklyRomaine · 18/09/2022 10:51

I've seen posts from a parent with a student in his class on twitter over night basically agreeing that while her child and his friends find it uncomfortable, it's all fine, "she" is a good teacher and hopefully the boys will get with it. Canada is beyond help.

Would they say the same if a female teacher had an enormous prosthetic penis clearly visible through their cycling shorts?

Datun · 18/09/2022 11:06

But having said that, Shuttleworth acknowledges “there had to be some disconnect because one of the students created this video.”

Some of that concern has been expressed on social media, including one student taking to Twitter to write “the kids here most definitely don’t think it’s normal… but realistically we can’t say anything. Last year, the teacher was a man. I don’t think the school can fire him.”

Ah. I wonder if he's angling for a bit of a lucrative court case.

They're such idiots. They clearly know, and have created laws that means they can't do anything about it.

They're allowing a male to take the piss and/or take his fetish to school, and all their pupils are sacrificed to it.

torontosun.com/news/local-news/warmington-halton-school-board-prepares-for-backlash-over-trans-high-school-teacher

GrabbyGabby · 18/09/2022 11:14

Jesus fucking christ.

The rights of men to openly involve children in their fetish win.

This is why i will fight this shit til my dying breath. Because this is the endgame. And it is vile.

RinklyRomaine · 18/09/2022 12:14

@Datun of course not! A female would never do it, anyway.

I get the school. To an extent. The assistant head is also allegedly trans identified, they are trying to cover their arses, legally. They are between a rock and a hard place. Acceptance for all leads us here. But the parents? Come on! The kids are clearly not happy or why would they be videoing him?

ImNotAnExpert · 18/09/2022 12:26

'The Halton District School Board is “standing behind” an “accepted” transgender teacher who has gone viral in social media video posts.'

'In addition, HDSB Chair Margo Shuttleworth tells the Toronto Sun that staff are looking at “going through creating a safety plan” to ensure the Oakville Trafalgar High School teacher’s security as they prepare for potential protests when the school opens for classes Monday.'

'Protecting any persons “gender rights” is “the stance the school board is taking and they are standing behind the teacher,” said Shuttleworth.'

From the Toronto Sun article.

Datun · 18/09/2022 12:28

RinklyRomaine · 18/09/2022 12:14

@Datun of course not! A female would never do it, anyway.

I get the school. To an extent. The assistant head is also allegedly trans identified, they are trying to cover their arses, legally. They are between a rock and a hard place. Acceptance for all leads us here. But the parents? Come on! The kids are clearly not happy or why would they be videoing him?

It's very, very concerning that they can't acknowledge children in their care being subjected to a male adult sexual fetish, because of laws and regulations that they put in place.

This is clearly not what they thought would happen. And they know it's wrong.

It's also not going to stop there, either, of course. Every predator in the country now knows that their proclivities can just be waved through everywhere. Including schools.

Not to mention anyone who fancies being a bit litigious.

There must be secret forums all over the globe positively pissing themselves laughing at their unimaginable good fortune.

This is just the first. There are going to be dozens.

Datun · 18/09/2022 12:30

I mean, even if they did manage to find a way to stop this. Whether it's a loophole like with Yaniv, or actually changing the laws, who the fuck is ever going trust these school boards with their children?

ImNotAnExpert · 18/09/2022 12:32

Some of my disbelief at this story initially was wondering how on earth anyone would find something like those fake breasts in the first place.

Guess what! It seems that outrageously large fake breasts a common enough request that this shop for cross dressers caters specifically for it. Who knew?

www.glamourboutique.com/shop/breast-forms/very-large-breast-forms

ImNotAnExpert · 18/09/2022 12:32

'As a transgender woman you have the right to the achieve the figure you desire, and our selection of large breastforms will allow you to do just that.'

RinklyRomaine · 18/09/2022 12:50

@Datun this is what we have been saying all along, right? Every single bit of acceptance leads to this. We all know men will take a mile for every inch, predators will play any game, exploit any chink. Acceptance of any male assuming a female identity eventually leads here, and these authorities have walked cheerfully, nay, run, into a blind corner. The NHS denying the rape of a woman in their care, because there were 'no men' present. It's all there.

Misstache · 18/09/2022 12:56

My working theory is this is a psy op by two covert terf groups who don’t know the other is a terf. The male teacher is a terf who is secretly taking the piss about transition to prove how stupid the rules are. But the school board is also secretly a terf hive and so they’re also allowing it to make a point about how far things have gone, except they don’t know the teacher is a terf so they think it’s an actual TW. Meanwhile, the teacher thinks the school board are all TRAs and is getting more outrageous to see how far he can push things.

That should be the only way this situation actually makes sense! Of course, it’s really just that these are ACTUALLY the rules now.

Datun · 18/09/2022 13:01

RinklyRomaine · 18/09/2022 12:50

@Datun this is what we have been saying all along, right? Every single bit of acceptance leads to this. We all know men will take a mile for every inch, predators will play any game, exploit any chink. Acceptance of any male assuming a female identity eventually leads here, and these authorities have walked cheerfully, nay, run, into a blind corner. The NHS denying the rape of a woman in their care, because there were 'no men' present. It's all there.

Indeed.

Although, I'm not even sure in my wildest imaginings, that a male teacher with those breasts would be defended by a school board.

Datun · 18/09/2022 13:02

I hope our government is watching this. I hope Liz Truss nails the ideology to the wall.

ImNotAnExpert · 18/09/2022 13:02

I can't imagine what it would take.

At this point the tacit acceptance of a fetish that clearly relies on deliberately outraging decency seems to be baked in.

ZeldaFighter · 18/09/2022 13:18

All the female teachers should go to school in solidarity with this poor victimised woman- by wearing exactly the same outfit. Cycling shorts and nips out. They'll probably have to buy the outfits because not every woman has this particular type of wardrobe but solidarity!

PS I have large norks and the last time I had to wear a dress, my bust kept hanging out and I was mortified.

DialSquare · 18/09/2022 13:19

If I was a Female Canadian GC teacher, I'd buy a pair of those fake breasts and turn up to work every day wearing them. Just to see what the reaction would be.

Datun · 18/09/2022 13:22

DialSquare · 18/09/2022 13:19

If I was a Female Canadian GC teacher, I'd buy a pair of those fake breasts and turn up to work every day wearing them. Just to see what the reaction would be.

Yes, someone, at some point, is going to offer them money to do it.

GrabbyGabby · 18/09/2022 13:41

Transwomen should be piping up here. We have been pointing out the dangers of gender identity and self identification for years now, saying that it creates an open door for abusers, fetishists and bad actors to gain unimpeachable access to women and children.

We have been told that this paints all transwomen as predators and that it wont happen anyway.

So, here is your chance. Speak up. Point at everything that is wrong with this and demand something is done.

Women like us are not the biggest threats to trans rights. Men like this are. If you dont recognise and deal with the danger in your midst, then you are complicit.

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