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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Amusing piece in the Daily Mash

78 replies

antifascist · 15/07/2022 21:19

I know everyone wants to lighten up a little - I'm sure some of you will enjoy this

THE South Yorkshire town of Cleckburton used to be a thriving industrial hub. Today its shops are boarded up and there are no jobs, hopes or prospects for its inhabitants.

The reason? The onslaught of wokeness, a process which began in the late 1970s and has since laid waste to the town.

Longtime resident Roy Hobbs said: “Back in the day this was a lovely place. People looked out for each other, chatted over their back fences and were casually racist about anyone not born within a ten-mile radius of the market square.

“And now it’s dead. My dad told me that it was the result of de-industrialisation and a lack of investment in the North by successive governments but it turns out he was wrong because the Daily Mail says it’s all down to wokeness.
^^
www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/revealed-how-a-once-thriving-northern-town-was-ruined-by-wokeness-20220715223346?

OP posts:
Conflictedunicorn · 17/07/2022 06:54

RufusthefIoraImissingreindeer · 16/07/2022 14:18

Apologies

That was supposed to be anti fascist...not anti christ

You were right the first time.

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 17/07/2022 09:17

I see our visitor didn't address the question about who wrote the sneering pile of cozy superiority he posted in the OP.

I think he often says things that he wishes were true rather than things he actually knows to be true

what a twerp

antifascist · 17/07/2022 09:42

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KatVonlabonk · 17/07/2022 09:47

Oh MY GOD

Someone on mumsnet MISGENDERED misnortherned Telford

THAT'S IT FOR ME FASCIST SCUM

😹

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 17/07/2022 09:52

im so far down south that just about everywhere else is northern

i once had an argument about who was further south with SIL

id forgotten that maps are straight and the country is actually tilted…so in reality it was very close. I still once but only just

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 17/07/2022 09:53

I still won…but only just

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 17/07/2022 09:57

I lived in south yorkshire for years and loved it. it's a beautiful part of the country with loads of culture and history

like you rufus I'm now so far south I get nose bleed if I go to Milton Keynes.

It's lovely here too, but a lot of the culture gets sucked into london.

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 17/07/2022 10:00

No culture here

theres an amusement arcade!

FreddieDeLaHay · 17/07/2022 10:08

Surely if the writer was from Yorkshire they would know Cleckheaton is in West Yorkshire 🤦‍♀️
Or may be I'm getting my whippets in a twist

Belovedfool · 17/07/2022 10:16

Yorkshire is "north" huh?
Try Shetland, you southern softies.

Ps not my home, sadly, i just visit occasionally.

MattoMatto · 17/07/2022 10:24

The Mash used to be very funny when I regularly read it over ten years ago. I’m not sure if it’s changed or I have, but on the odd occasion I have a look I find it almost painfully unamusing.

I’ve got no time for it at all since the piece on MN earlier in the year. Some of it was amusingly recognisable, but they characterised the gender stuff on here as women hysterically and mindlessly regurgitating views from the Daily Mail. If you’re going to poke fun at something, be accurate about it. And at the same time try not to buy into the sexist idea that women, especially ones who have kids, are some sort of intellectually low-functioning hive mind with no capacity for independent critical thinking.

Alltheprettyseahorses · 17/07/2022 10:32

antifascist · 16/07/2022 21:07

Thanks for the cheery friendly welcome . love you too @norma27

The piece was written by someone from Yorkshire and it ridicules those of you who favour attacks on the woke whilst material circumstances get worse.

Like those of you who obsess about pronouns and toilets ( and advocate for the extreme right ) especially when rabble roused by those well known feminists Rupert Murdoch, Jonathan Rothermemer and the Barclay brothers

whilst millions of women and children face hunger and the NHS is being looted.

This is something I've seen quite a lot over the last few days - why are women so obsessed with pronouns and toilets when there are so many more important things going on in the world, how can we be so trivial? And it's always, without exception, from the same people with pronouns in their social media bios and who have spent the last few years loudly and dare I say obsessively campaigning for the very issues they now decry as totally unimportant. Probably in the hope we feel suitably reprimanded and ashamed and shut up about it so they can merrily carry on without that annoying noise from the support humans. I can only say if pronouns etc are so trivial (despite the numerous articles in major news outlets that people die if the wrong pronoun is used) then you drop the issue first. Give it up and give us proof that you've done do, then never think of it again. We'll stop after you, not before. Because we're not stupid.

NecessaryScene · 17/07/2022 10:37

This is something I've seen quite a lot over the last few days - why are women so obsessed with pronouns and toilets when there are so many more important things going on in the world, how can we be so trivial

I do see some logic there. How about we join hands across the aisle to urge MNHQ to lift the "no misgendering" rule currently in force on this board?

It is obsessively trivial to be deleting posts for calling men "men" or "he".

Alltheprettyseahorses · 17/07/2022 10:39

And there it is on the 'Penny Mordaunt's bid for leadership is surely over' thread.

Deliriumoftheendless · 17/07/2022 11:16

While the Rotherham grooming scandal was going on it was people like Antifash who were busy calling others racist for trying to draw attention to it.

that’s where your cockeyed political thinking gets no.

no thanks.

Deliriumoftheendless · 17/07/2022 11:17

Gets you not get no.

Conflictedunicorn · 17/07/2022 11:19

FreddieDeLaHay · 17/07/2022 10:08

Surely if the writer was from Yorkshire they would know Cleckheaton is in West Yorkshire 🤦‍♀️
Or may be I'm getting my whippets in a twist

Most Yorkshire people would know that lol.

antifascist · 17/07/2022 11:35

NecessaryScene · 17/07/2022 10:37

This is something I've seen quite a lot over the last few days - why are women so obsessed with pronouns and toilets when there are so many more important things going on in the world, how can we be so trivial

I do see some logic there. How about we join hands across the aisle to urge MNHQ to lift the "no misgendering" rule currently in force on this board?

It is obsessively trivial to be deleting posts for calling men "men" or "he".

it is obsessively trivial to insist on misgendering people

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Conflictedunicorn · 17/07/2022 11:46

So if this is a ‘trivial issue’ for women surely it is also a ‘trivial issue’ for trans people and they will use the facilities for their sex, use the pronouns if they’re sex and stop harassing women no? Or is it only ‘trivial’ because you want women to shut up about it?

NecessaryScene · 17/07/2022 11:47

Then must also be obsessively trivial to insist on not misgendering people.

Alltheprettyseahorses · 17/07/2022 11:49

antifascist · 17/07/2022 11:35

it is obsessively trivial to insist on misgendering people

We are using standard English universally correct sex pronouns. We aren't the ones worrying about these trivial matters. In all cases, it is a tiny minority of people, almost invariably among the privileged middle-class, who then complain they want their own special pronouns (creating neopronouns is practically an industry) which may change daily that we are suddenly expected to waste a lot of mental effort on remembering - exacerbated by the logical disconnect - over more important issues. As NecessaryScene said, let's completely forget about these trivial niche quibbles and not waste another moment on them. Thank you for agreeing antifascist.

TastefulRainbowUnicorn · 17/07/2022 11:52

Either “misgendering” is a trivial issue that only obsessives care about, or it’s not.

I happen to think my right to speak the truth is important and that people trying to take that away are a concern to me, even if they’ve adopted TOTES NOT A FASCIST HONESTLY as a screen name.

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 17/07/2022 12:30

I happen to think my right to speak the truth is important and that people trying to take that away are a concern to me, even if they’ve adopted TOTES NOT A FASCIST HONESTLY as a screen name

maybe the poster doth protest too much

i guess its so they can post really quite facist ideas and hide behind the name

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 17/07/2022 12:31

Fascist

what is wrong with me today 😀

TheLassWiADelicateAir · 17/07/2022 12:46

'yet there are posters who keep posting praise of Jordan peterson, Jacob Rees Mogg, Kemi Badenoch and many others'

That is such a telling comment about what "antifascist" and "Antifa" really means.