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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Amusing piece in the Daily Mash

78 replies

antifascist · 15/07/2022 21:19

I know everyone wants to lighten up a little - I'm sure some of you will enjoy this

THE South Yorkshire town of Cleckburton used to be a thriving industrial hub. Today its shops are boarded up and there are no jobs, hopes or prospects for its inhabitants.

The reason? The onslaught of wokeness, a process which began in the late 1970s and has since laid waste to the town.

Longtime resident Roy Hobbs said: “Back in the day this was a lovely place. People looked out for each other, chatted over their back fences and were casually racist about anyone not born within a ten-mile radius of the market square.

“And now it’s dead. My dad told me that it was the result of de-industrialisation and a lack of investment in the North by successive governments but it turns out he was wrong because the Daily Mail says it’s all down to wokeness.
^^
www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/revealed-how-a-once-thriving-northern-town-was-ruined-by-wokeness-20220715223346?

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IcakethereforeIam · 16/07/2022 17:49

Sorry Auntie F, I gave it a read and tried some of the other articles, not my cup of tea. Perhaps they're just having a bad week? Hope you're getting out and enjoying the sunshine.

GCAcademic · 16/07/2022 19:36

More tedious, sneering elitism from the metropolitan left towards northerners. And no doubt they are still scratching their heads over why the red wall fell. Oh, no, silly me, we know why it fell - it’s because northerners are thick bigots who don’t know what’s good for them.

antifascist · 16/07/2022 21:07

Thanks for the cheery friendly welcome . love you too @norma27

The piece was written by someone from Yorkshire and it ridicules those of you who favour attacks on the woke whilst material circumstances get worse.

Like those of you who obsess about pronouns and toilets ( and advocate for the extreme right ) especially when rabble roused by those well known feminists Rupert Murdoch, Jonathan Rothermemer and the Barclay brothers

whilst millions of women and children face hunger and the NHS is being looted.

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Norma27 · 16/07/2022 21:14

hi @antifascist we all know what a woman hater you are. Call me all the names you want. No males/penises belong in female single sex spaces. I will use the sex based pronouns someone is. If you don’t like that then TOUGH. I do not care. Shove your misogynist views. Women matter. Single sex spaces matter. The protections for women and their dignity matter.

IcakethereforeIam · 16/07/2022 21:19

See, jokes aren't funny if you have to explain the punchline.

LK1972 · 16/07/2022 21:23

@antifascist will we get our toilets back after the revolution?

Why do you bother arguing on here for days on end, no one is taking you seriously anymore, we know you hate us complaining our rights are being stripped away. You're not even providing any arguments, just sneer and lecture and tell us we should be caring about other things. Genuinely, what is it you get from these interactions?

ControversialOpening · 16/07/2022 21:24

I thought it was quite funny antifascist. Not as good as Titania or Ricky, but mildly amusing.

Now go on, it’s nearly bedtime. You’ve just got time to play a Billy Bragg record - not too loud though, you don’t want your mum coming up to tell you off (especially as she’s old and cis).

Norma27 · 16/07/2022 21:47

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Norma27 · 16/07/2022 21:48

No idea where that random ageing came from 🤣🤣

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 16/07/2022 22:22

The piece was written by someone from Yorkshire

there's no byline

is our visitor talking bollocks again or did he proudly come to show his clever work to the mums?

Hernameisdeborah · 16/07/2022 22:46

@antifascist thanks for sharing, that's my worldview challenged!

You do understand we can be angry at the shitshow of a government that's made our material circumstances worse and at the same time, think gender ideology is utter horseshit, yes?

My aversion to pronouns is nothing to do with being anti-woke and harking back to a time when everyone was racist and everything was generally fucking shit, I'm fairly woke generally, i just hate the ideology pronouns represent because it's a regressive pile of shit favoured by misogynists.

Very few people on this forum want anything to do with the far right either. I'm left wing and a significant proportion of fellow Mumsnet users are the same. I realise it's easier for you to class everyone whose view doesn't sit with yours as one reactionary, backwards borg.

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 16/07/2022 22:57

You do understand we can be angry at the shitshow of a government that's made our material circumstances worse and at the same time, think gender ideology is utter horseshit, yes?

what!?!

two thoughts? about two different things? At the same time?

nooooooo you don’t want to blow *antifacists’ mind do you?

antifascist · 16/07/2022 23:05

Hernameisdeborah · 16/07/2022 22:46

@antifascist thanks for sharing, that's my worldview challenged!

You do understand we can be angry at the shitshow of a government that's made our material circumstances worse and at the same time, think gender ideology is utter horseshit, yes?

My aversion to pronouns is nothing to do with being anti-woke and harking back to a time when everyone was racist and everything was generally fucking shit, I'm fairly woke generally, i just hate the ideology pronouns represent because it's a regressive pile of shit favoured by misogynists.

Very few people on this forum want anything to do with the far right either. I'm left wing and a significant proportion of fellow Mumsnet users are the same. I realise it's easier for you to class everyone whose view doesn't sit with yours as one reactionary, backwards borg.

that may be true- and yet there are posters who keep posting praise of Jordan peterson, Jacob Rees Mogg, Kemi Badenoch and many others

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ControversialOpening · 16/07/2022 23:33

yet there are posters who keep posting praise of Jordan peterson, Jacob Rees Mogg, Kemi Badenoch and many others

Really? Posters praising Rees Mogg? I must have missed those.

While I disagree with those posters I do like to read opinions from a variety of people. Some I'll agree with, some I won't. that's kind of the point.

I assume you are one of those people who likes to see a variety of opinions as long as they are all exactly the same as yours.

ControversialOpening · 16/07/2022 23:37

... which is kind of ironic, considering your username.

LK1972 · 16/07/2022 23:48

'yet there are posters who keep posting praise of Jordan peterson, Jacob Rees Mogg, Kemi Badenoch and many others'

I'm sorry, did I go to sleep and woke up in a totalitarian state where people are not allowed to have non-left wing opinions?

When I first came to this country from USSR I was gobsmacked to learn that Karl Marx is buried in Highgate cemetery, for all to visit/venerate should they choose to, and Communist Party alive and kicking. Nothing like that would've been allowed in Soviet Union. It's because a plurality of opinions is tolerated in this country, in spite of best efforts of some 'anti fascists'.

You have no idea how incredibly familiar and tedious your attempts to enforce the 'correct' opinions are for someone who grew up under totalitarian regime.

noraclavicle · 16/07/2022 23:50

All this isn’t the sign of a happy boy, nor one that meets or knows many women, nor knows much about Yorkshire for that matter. There must be a whole host of neo-Nazi forums out there on the web, and yet so much time is spent safely berating women wanting to retain their hard-earned rights. It’s all a bit..cowardly, isn’t it.

BootsAndRoots · 17/07/2022 00:04

Why is it that anyone who goes on about fascists is always the most bigoted person going?

And it's always the most basic arguments, you disagree me you are a Nazi! Someone seems to be unable to distinguish between right wing (although I can't see how refusal to use pronouns is right or left wing) and fascism (that can be either left or right wing).

antifascist · 17/07/2022 00:08

ControversialOpening · 16/07/2022 23:33

yet there are posters who keep posting praise of Jordan peterson, Jacob Rees Mogg, Kemi Badenoch and many others

Really? Posters praising Rees Mogg? I must have missed those.

While I disagree with those posters I do like to read opinions from a variety of people. Some I'll agree with, some I won't. that's kind of the point.

I assume you are one of those people who likes to see a variety of opinions as long as they are all exactly the same as yours.

here's the Jacob Rees- Mogg piece

Someone praising his transphobia

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4581230-jacob-rees-mogg-revamping-civil-service-training

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noraclavicle · 17/07/2022 00:20

This is the only attention you get, isn’t it?

IcakethereforeIam · 17/07/2022 00:21

Night night Auntie F, sweet dreams.

ControversialOpening · 17/07/2022 01:24

So here are some extracts from the commenter 'praising' Rees-Mogg:

It’s a sad day when you see Jacob Rees Mogg doing anything and you’re happy about it...
I don’t like JRM but if anyone thinks the general public aren’t behind him on this, they’re deluded...
I think Mogg is generally a pompous fool. I just think he’s right about this...

It's hardly a ringing endorsement, is it?

The poster also replied to this question:

"So if JRM doesn't believe in eating your first born, right thinking people should?"

This is about the size of it.

So come on antifascist, let's have your opinion: JRM doesn't believe in eating your firstborn. You think that agreeing with JRM is evil, so you either a) agree with eating your firstborn, or b) are evil.
Which is it?

NewPotatoSalad · 17/07/2022 01:41

"antifascist" is ironic, for a start! One of the most fascist for a while! Bludgeoning women that WOMEN ARE WRONG!!111!11

MangyInseam · 17/07/2022 04:28

ControversialOpening · 16/07/2022 23:33

yet there are posters who keep posting praise of Jordan peterson, Jacob Rees Mogg, Kemi Badenoch and many others

Really? Posters praising Rees Mogg? I must have missed those.

While I disagree with those posters I do like to read opinions from a variety of people. Some I'll agree with, some I won't. that's kind of the point.

I assume you are one of those people who likes to see a variety of opinions as long as they are all exactly the same as yours.

There was a thread where there was a discussion of a policy he was looking to put into place which many posters were happy about. Their "praise," such as it was, was specifically relating to implementing that policy.

Some people seem to think that if someone is Beyond the Pale you have to disagree with anything they do even if it's actually fine.

mirax · 17/07/2022 06:40

Antifascist worries about the moral degeneracy of the posters here as a good lefty does but has fuck all to say about the large scale rape and abuse of girls in the northern towns. Over a thousand victims in Telford alone. But run along, nothing to see here. The real villains are Jordan Peterson or Kemi Badenoch and the evil women who will not submit to the anti-fascist morons.

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