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Allison Bailey v Stonewall - Employment Tribunal hearing Thread 2

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ickky · 03/05/2022 15:13

The Tribunal started on 25th April at 10am. If you would like to view online you need to send a request for access as early as possible.

Send an email to

[email protected]

The subject heading of the email request should read

“MEDIA OR PUBLIC ACCESS REQUEST – Case number 2202172/2020 - Ms A Bailey – 25th April 2022.

Then ask for the pin for the online access.

You will be contacted with instructions on how to observe the hearing.

When joining the live tribunal
select the video and mic that are not crossed out, this is the courts vid and mic.
On the next page select NONE on the drop down windows for vid and mic, these are your own video and mic.

You must be muted so as to not disturb the hearing.

There is also live tweeting from twitter.com/tribunaltweets

Abbreviations:
AB: Allison Bailey, claimant
BC: Ben Cooper QC, barrister for AB
SW = Stonewall Equality Limited (respondent 1)
IO = Ijeoma Omambala QC, barrister for SW
RW = Robin White assisting IO
GC = Garden Court Chambers Limited (respondent 2) (GCC would be a better abbreviation)
AH = Andrew Hochhauser QC, barrister for GC
JR = Jane Russell assisting AH
RM= Rajiv Menon QC & SH = Stephanie Harrison QC (jointly respondent 3 along with all members of GC except AB)
EJ = Employment Judge Goodman hearing the case
Panel = any one of the three panel members (EJ and two lay members)

Allison Bailey v Stonewall - Employment Tribunal hearing Thread 1 👇

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4529887-Allison-Bailey-v-Stonewall-Employment-Tribunal-hearing?

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JulesRimetStillGleaming · 09/05/2022 10:19

Guess we should fill up this thread so we're not talking across two threads.

AppleandRhubarbTart · 09/05/2022 10:19

Anyone else still on black screen? I tried with both chrome and edge.

JulesRimetStillGleaming · 09/05/2022 10:19

Allison Bailey v Stonewall - Employment Tribunal hearing Thread 3 www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4545725-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-3

JulesRimetStillGleaming · 09/05/2022 10:20

AppleandRhubarbTart · 09/05/2022 10:19

Anyone else still on black screen? I tried with both chrome and edge.

No it's working. Make sure you don't cross out the camera or mic icon when you go in or you won't get video or sound.

JulesRimetStillGleaming · 09/05/2022 10:21

I'm the drop down connect box don't select any of those options. Just connect and you can mute your own mic and camera at the next stage.

AppleandRhubarbTart · 09/05/2022 10:22

JulesRimetStillGleaming · 09/05/2022 10:20

No it's working. Make sure you don't cross out the camera or mic icon when you go in or you won't get video or sound.

I can hear now!

User237845 · 09/05/2022 10:25

I liked the judge's pointed comments about the GCC people giving their witnesses some technical training "given Mr Lue's difficulties".

AppleandRhubarbTart · 09/05/2022 10:27

User237845 · 09/05/2022 10:25

I liked the judge's pointed comments about the GCC people giving their witnesses some technical training "given Mr Lue's difficulties".

Shady!

JulesRimetStillGleaming · 09/05/2022 10:27

So AK has switched from She/her pronouns to God fearing Christian in the log in name. What a child.

Redshoeblueshoe · 09/05/2022 10:28

I have a relative who is a solicitor and they have been doing virtual court for ages now, this behaviour (not being able to use technology) just wouldn't wash

AppleandRhubarbTart · 09/05/2022 10:35

Redshoeblueshoe · 09/05/2022 10:28

I have a relative who is a solicitor and they have been doing virtual court for ages now, this behaviour (not being able to use technology) just wouldn't wash

Oh, I don't suppose anyone actually believed Stephen Lue's conveniently timed technical ineptitude was genuine.

Redshoeblueshoe · 09/05/2022 10:38

I agree apple.

User237845 · 09/05/2022 10:39

JulesRimetStillGleaming · 09/05/2022 10:27

So AK has switched from She/her pronouns to God fearing Christian in the log in name. What a child.

There are about three AKs - the she/her one, the god-fearing atheist and alhumdil'ullah (sp?). Whilst slightly amusing, it's slightly childish and risks pissing off the judge more. Oh, also a Jedi one I think.

JulesRimetStillGleaming · 09/05/2022 10:40

I've reported it to the clerk.

nauticant · 09/05/2022 10:42

It's annoying that the busy-in-the-chat observer AK (She/Her) now has a number of similarly-named tribute observers, many of whom have been busy in the chat.

User237845 · 09/05/2022 10:43

AH has got some nerve getting arsey with Allison given Lue's faffing. (Am posting a bit more than usual to fill this thread up a bit as checking two threads atm!)

JulesRimetStillGleaming · 09/05/2022 10:44

I've emailed the clerk about it. I assumed it was all one person but hopefully the judge will stamp it out.

This is a court of law if you're reading this. You are behaving like spoilt little children.

SpindleInTheWind · 09/05/2022 10:46

I'm not signed in and am relying on these threads to keep me up to speed. Thank you for all the updates!

Crazylazydayz · 09/05/2022 10:59

@ickky Thanks for setting up thread 3. I’ve asked the admins to close thread 2 to new posts as it’s very confusing having two threads running on the same ET.

ickky · 09/05/2022 11:01

Crazylazydayz · 09/05/2022 10:59

@ickky Thanks for setting up thread 3. I’ve asked the admins to close thread 2 to new posts as it’s very confusing having two threads running on the same ET.

Thank you

Please use this thread now.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4545725-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-3

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nauticant · 09/05/2022 11:01

Thanks Crazylazydayz, two threads running in parallel has been driving me up the wall.

JulesRimetStillGleaming · 09/05/2022 11:02

Me too. Have been trying to fill this one up by posting inanely (hopefully more so than usual)

nauticant · 09/05/2022 11:09

I'm now officially done with this thread and my pearls of wisdom will now be exclusively available on thread 3.

Redshoeblueshoe · 09/05/2022 11:24

see you all over on Thread 3

JulesRimetStillGleaming · 09/05/2022 11:29

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