Maya Forstater Tribunal March 2022- Thread 4

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Thread one, here:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4498167-Maya-Forstater-hearing-starts-Monday

Thread two, here:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4505825-Maya-Forstater-Tribunal-March-2022-Thread-2?pg=1

Thread three, here:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4507443-Maya-Forstater-Tribunal-March-2022-Thread-3

Abbreviations:
BC = Ben Cooper QC, counsel for
MF = Maya Forstater - Claimant
AP = Anya Palmer, assisting BC
OD = Olivia Dobbie, counsel for the respondents
EJ = Employment judge, leading the panel
Panel = any one of the 3 members

CGDE (CGD Europe) – Respondent 1

CGD = Centre for Global Development – Respondent 2

LE = Luke Easley, Vice president for HR and operations at CGD, first witness for CGD
AG = Amanda Glassman, Chief Operating Officer, Senior Fellow and Board Secretary of CGD and a Trustee of CGD(Europe), second witness for CGD
MP = Mark Plant, Chief Operating Officer of CGD Europe, third witness for CGD
MA = Masood Ahmed, President of CGD and Chair of the Board of CGDE – Respondent 3, fourth witness for CGD

EM = Ellen MacKenzie, an off-stage character at CGD, involved in much that went on.

Maya's website has lots of relevant information and is collating the live tweets.
www.hiyamaya.net

twitter.com/tribunaltweets is the account to look at for the live tweets. Plus some live posting and discussion on these threads.

It is all online. If you want to watch you need to email the tribunal for a log in to [email protected]

They will send you pin number and a link to log in to the tribunal.

Anyone have the transcripts of the closing arguments? I'd so love to read them cos I was working that day. Thanks so much. Jelly

@Juggins2

Anyone have the transcripts of the closing arguments? I'd so love to read them cos I was working that day. Thanks so much. Jelly

Tabbycat has sent transcripts from this thread to Maya so I'd expect them to turn up there if they aren't already.

hiyamaya.net/

I don't think there is a transcript of any of this hearing in the legal sense but there are notes people have made on line and on twitter of parts of what was said.
A transcript in legal terms is either typed by experts with a contract with a court to type afterwards from tape recordings or else is an expensive service litigants can pay for with their people in court typing all day what is said usually in a team of two typists by companies such as wordwave.

Claimants closing submission
drive.google.com/file/d/1fiWi0Q8skOO68pg9J7XTF0sBTRK83Ghj/view

Forstarter v CGD documents
NEW: Livetweets
Playlist (Spotify)
Particulars of the claim (May 2019)
Grounds of resistance (May 2019)
NEW: CLAIMANT’S OPENING SUBMISSIONS (March 2022) A mini bundle
NEW: RESPONDENT’s OPENING STATEMENT (March 2022)
NEW: CLAIMANTS WITNESS STATEMENT (March 2022) (pdf without evidence)
NEW: CLAIMANTS WITNESS STATEMENT and evidence minbundle (large file)
NEW: Luke Easley Witness Statement
NEW: Amanda Glassman Witness Statement
NEW: Mark Plant Witness Statement
NEW: Masood Ahmed Witness Statement
NEW: Respondents closing submission
NEW: Claimants closing submission
NEW: Bundle (large download)

hiyamaya.net/page/2/

Decision tomorrow at approx 11am

twitter.com/MForstater/status/1544380857963741184?t=EeHxTLXBoaxMEnyrpzFfNg&s=19

Thanks for the heads up. Everything crossed that fairness prevails. Good luck Maya.

She’s won.

Not all counts but the direct and indirect discrimination on belief. It’s more than enough

Congratulations Maya! What a victory. Not just for you, but for everyone.

Congratulations Maya. This is fabulous news.

Maya

Absolutely brilliant! Well done Maya

Brilliant. Have been watching but not posting but must just post to say well done Maya for what you have achieved for yourself but also for all of us.

Fantastic! So happy for you Maya

Congratulations Maya.

Here is her statement

mforstater.medium.com/press-statement-maya-forstaters-victory-in-employment-tribunal-a-win-for-free-speech-and-99365009baa1

Judgement in full here

www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/Forstater-JR-AG.pdf

Woman is discriminated against in the workplace because of her beliefs...

TRAs: "Businesses must not accommodate abuse towards trans people in the workplace"

It's hard to wrap one's head around the logic of these people.

So pleased to see this. Thank you Maya you are an inspiration

Congratulations, Maya. This means so much to so many people.

Two threads on this....congratulations to Maya 💐such a shame it has taken so long to get this issue clarified.

The TRA nonsense is in full flow on Twitter but I have to highlight this particularly amusing conversation between a TRA and Sarah Phillimore - twitter.com/SVPhillimore/status/1544657683948748800?s=20&t=WE82rzqpFbvxO-znY0QU5Q

Oh, this is wonderful news!

Congratulations Maya, thank you!

Congratulations and thank you for fighting this Maya! We always knew you were right, whatever the legal result was, but the result will protect so many other women, and protecting the truth and freedom of speech. Thank you for pursuing it.

That's one classy statement. Brava, Maya!