Maya Forstater is entitled to her views, but anti-transgender beliefs don’t belong in the workplace

[Trixie78]

I don't even know where to start with the inaccuracies in this article. It's making my blood boil.

www.independent.co.uk/voices/maya-forstater-rowling-trans-b1838137.html

No wonder The Metro crossword compiler had Adult Human Female in the crossword. What a load of garbage.

Crossword sedition?

The Metro as with The Independent, has form for publishing some shockingly fact free propaganda by transactivists in recent years.

That is so badly written. How does such tosh get into newspapers?

It must be very frustrating for actual journalists.

That piece is a steaming pile of horseshit, it's actually embarrassing that it was printed in a national newspaper.
Embarrassing, but sadly not surprising...

@R0wantrees

It must be very frustrating for actual journalists.

A very well respected female feminist journalist said to me that she had often been gazumped on stories by wholly unqualified trans people who the paper decides they'd rather publish.

she had often been gazumped on stories by wholly unqualified trans people

Just for the record - how many of them were male?

@NecessaryScene1

she had often been gazumped on stories by wholly unqualified trans people

Just for the record - how many of them were male?

All

Knock me down with a feather. Suspected that might be the answer.

They do publish some non-binary/transmen females, but I thought to actually get gazumped would require a male.

'Transgender people do change their sex – it is discriminatory to say otherwise' by Ugla Stefanía Kristjönudóttir Jónsdóttir (Owl)

I thought no-one was saying people actually changed sex any more?

This person doesn't seem to understand what a legal fiction is.

Them can just prove it then can’t they?
Just because you say it, doesn’t make it so.

The whole foundation of being ‘gender critical’ is to be vehemently against the right of trans people to participate equally in society as their gender

Do you think some/a lot of TRAs or allies actually think that "gender critical" means simply "critical of (meaning "mean to") (trans)gender (people)"? That we have signed up to being GC on the basis that it is literally a club for attacking trans people?

I realise this person may be just twisting and misrepresenting rationality as hate, but I've just realised maybe some of them actually think gender critical literally means anti-trans.

I realise this person may be just twisting and misrepresenting rationality as hate, but I've just realised maybe some of them actually think gender critical literally means anti-trans

I think a lot of people think this

@RufustheBadgeringReindeer

I realise this person may be just twisting and misrepresenting rationality as hate, but I've just realised maybe some of them actually think gender critical literally means anti-trans

I think a lot of people think this

Ms Sinnott helped the judge in the High Court yesterday come to that view.

thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4237456-Ann-Sinnott-of-Authentic-Equity-Alliance-vs-EHRC-Judicial-Review-of-incorrect-Equality-Act-guidance

Oh look, Robin, the author of the article in the OP is here. Are you going to explain why you wrote so many wrong things Robin? Was it on purpose or just incompetent?

"I realise this person may be just twisting and misrepresenting rationality as hate, but I've just realised maybe some of them actually think gender critical literally means anti-trans"

I think a lot of people think this

Ms Sinnott helped the judge in the High Court yesterday come to that view.

It will be interesting to read the finding.
If indeed Mr Justice Henshaw has come to such a belief/holds such opinion as RobinMoiraWhite asserts, it will surely raise questions.

Ann Sinnott Twitter comment,

"Many thanks for all good wishes! - far too many for me to reply to individually. Don't be downhearted.
Options being considered."

twitter.com/AnnMSinnott/status/1390568572632674304

as always I wonder what the reaction would be if we went over to boards for trans people lecturing them how they're not really the opposite sex to the one they were born into, and that whatever they think they dont pass, people are just being kind

and yet so many TRA think that coming over here to do the equivalent of telling us that women are a social construct and it's fine to get rid of the word mother in favour of 'inclusivity' is absolutely fine

@Kit19

as always I wonder what the reaction would be if we went over to boards for trans people lecturing them how they're not really the opposite sex to the one they were born into, and that whatever they think they dont pass, people are just being kind

and yet so many TRA think that coming over here to do the equivalent of telling us that women are a social construct and it's fine to get rid of the word mother in favour of 'inclusivity' is absolutely fine

I wouldn't be able to do that kind of thing because it would feel like I was violating other people's boundaries

I wouldn't be able to do that kind of thing because it would feel like I was violating other people's boundaries

It is exactly that Tinsel and Kit.

@Kit19

as always I wonder what the reaction would be if we went over to boards for trans people lecturing them how they're not really the opposite sex to the one they were born into, and that whatever they think they dont pass, people are just being kind

and yet so many TRA think that coming over here to do the equivalent of telling us that women are a social construct and it's fine to get rid of the word mother in favour of 'inclusivity' is absolutely fine

I wasnt aware that this was a Board exclusively for non trans individuals?

This board is to discuss feminism and women's rights, theres is also an LGBT board.

From the Metro article - "These beliefs [gender critical] are so extreme that they denounce a person’s inner sense of self, something they are in their very core."
Expecting other people to affirm ones inner sense of self/ believing one can only be the true self if other people affirm is extraordinary.

@Helleofabore

I wouldn't be able to do that kind of thing because it would feel like I was violating other people's boundaries

It is exactly that Tinsel and Kit.

It’s rather telling isn’t it. Says a lot about the nature of those who come here to goad.