Maya Forstater's appeal skeleton

[Mollyollydolly]

Saw this on twitter and thought it deserved a thread to itself.

As Jason Braler (employment lawyer) says on twitter "It's more a thesis than a traditional skeleton, but it certainly drives home the points from every conceivable angle.
It may also be the only ever EAT skeleton to have 4 references to Orwell"

hiyamaya.files.wordpress.com/2021/04/forstater-eat-claimant-skeleton-argument-plus-low-res-pages-1-50.pdf

Does anyone have a link to anyone who will be live tweeting?

Can somebody link to the live tweet stream? I'm not normally on Twitter.

What time does the hearing start?

twitter.com/SexMattersOrg

Live tweeting

What time does the hearing start?

Should be starting at 10:30am mateys.

Thx ArabellaScott

Is there a MN FWR thread running live for this?

Sex Matters
@SexMattersOrg

will be live tweeting.

Also, regarding the EHRC intervention - or lack of, until late in the day - perhaps they felt like they couldn't intervene to make a case that sex matters because if that view had just been deemed "so extreme that it’s unworthy of respect in a democratic society".

Once that label has been put on a belief by a judge, then how can a an org speak out in support of it? Would their staff then be subjected to disciplinary too?

I am very interested to here their submission. I can't imagine it's pro-Maya/women, but I hope it's not completely anti.

@lionheart

Sex Matters *@SexMattersOrg*

will be live tweeting.

I can't get on twitter in work

latest tweet:

There is a short delay as observers are "let in" to the virtual hearing this morning.

We understand that there are approximately 100 observers today.

tweet

"We are into the virtual hearing, and the judge should be with us presently."

(I can report tweets till 11.15 if someone could then take over?)

@GrabbingTheWorldByTheLapels

Good luck Maya and thank you for all your resilience and grit. You do women proud.

I realise you could have done without that first ridiculous verdict. But look at all the good it has done in the following 18 months.
JK Rowling’s call to arms and the burst of sunshine. The public are becoming more and more aware and finding the courage in numbers to call out the TRA lunacy.

It’s just a matter of time before the wall crumbles and you can count yourself as one who took a huge sledgehammer to it.

I salute you.

This

tweet

"Appeal in the Matter of Maya Forstater v CGD Europe & Ors

Mr Justice Choudhury apologises that not everyone who wished to join the meeting was able to. Had the hearing been in person, attendees would have been limited at 10."

tweet

"Broadcasting any part of the hearing could be criminal contempt of court, including live-streaming to an unauthorised location."

RSS feed here rss.app/new-rss-feed?step=2&feed=H7mFQhAaaIeLfHTd

tweet

"Interruptions will not be tolerated here, just as in open court.

BC (Ben Cooper QC)
JR (Jane Russell)
A (appellant MF)
R (respondent CGD)"

Thank you Jackie!

Oooh, was Ben Cooper the QC for Alison Bailey?

tweet

"We have read the skeleton arguments carefully so advocates need not dwell in too much detail.

Live tweeting is permitted, as long as no images or video of proceedings."

Thank you for the Twitter link. I mostly avoid that vile misogynistic cesspit, but it has its uses!

[quote Callmejudith]RSS feed here rss.app/new-rss-feed?step=2&feed=H7mFQhAaaIeLfHTd[/quote]
@PearPickingPorky, can you access this ^^ ?

tweets

"BC introduces interveners on behalf of the appellant's case
@IndexCensorship
&
@EHRC

Time allocation plan presented

Housekeeping discussion re all the different documents referred to, for the benefit of the judge (J)

BC begins to make submissions: sex is real, immutable and not to be conflated with gender identity. This short Q leads us into areas of profound importance. What are the boundaries given need for pluralism in society?"

@PearPickingPorky, can you access this ^^ ?

I can, yes. Brilliant, thank you!

tweets

"Has the court adopted the dogma of gender identity such that it is undemocratic to express that belief in the immutability of sex?

This belief does not interfere with the human rights of transgender people.

This is an unresolved philosophic & legal debate. Bears on women's rights which some believe are put at risk by dogma which seeks to replace the idea of women as a class with common biological realities"