Ghislaine Maxwell

[RadandMad]

Not GC, but I'd be interested to hear what you think motivated GM to do the stuff she did. I mean she's rich, beautiful, Oxbridge educated, so what on earth did Epstein have to offer her? If she was simply in love with him, how did that work given he evidently preferred young girls to her. I'm intrigued by the psychology at work here.

I think Prince Andrew is deluded and believes he is above all laws and societal expectations. He’s thick. If it was a blackmail attempt he would have run to Mummy. Prince Charles housed a priest under investigation for child abuse and wrote supportive letters, utterly stupid and full of hubris. Same behaviours.

GM chose to do what she did. Her background is not responsible for her choices over decades.

Just bumping this thread for this article.

The sex offender Jeffrey Epstein allegedly tried to gather incriminating material against Prince Andrew by forcing an underage girl to have sex with him, according to newly released court documents.
The papers released by a court in New York say the alleged encounter took place on the late US financier’s private island in the US Virgin Islands. A document claims Epstein instructed the girl, referred to as Jane Doe #3, to “give the prince whatever he demanded and report back to him on the details of the sexual abuse”.*

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jul/31/underage-girl-forced-to-have-sex-with-prince-andrew-us-court-document-jeffrey-epstein?CMP=ShareiOSAppp_Other

I believe the family went kind of ‚broke‘ when Maxwell died. Given what life she was used to, I presume the upper middle class life style her education could have afforded her, simply wasn‘t enough.
Then factor in that her Dad was well connected to secret services, who then may have offered her to also work for them, affording her the old life-style and giving her a purpose (I serve the greater good for that Country, just like my dad...)... I can totally see why she went there.

It is clearly a reasoning I reject, but in this world the idea of sacrificing some (or many) lower class people for the (perceived) greater good is not an aberration.
And nobody will tell me that they draw the line with 13 year olds.

And nobody will tell me that they draw the line with 13 year olds.
This right here, there are more documents to come. Read up on the NXIVM trial for the blueprint and then times that case by 1000.
www.thecut.com/2019/05/the-most-disturbing-details-from-the-nxivm-sex-cult-case.html

Didn't Epstein 'receive' a gift of three 'imported' 12 year olds?

That may well be, ImaWoman. My point was more general, though. In the specific case of Epstein&Maxwell, who I am convinced were a front of some intelligence agency, they may have focused on girls from 12 or 13 years up to compromise powerful men and get leverage. But I am sure other operations have different ‚portfolios‘. They will offer anything powerful men may crave. And I am certain many of those involved in those intelligence operations consider their atrocities justified for the ‚greater good‘.
Just look at torture queen Gina Haspel.

The bottom line is that the Epstein thing was also an intelligence operation, and in those context innocent lives and mean very little. Heck, when Ghislaine was photographed in some restaurant a year or so back, she very visibly read a book about the unsung heroes of intelligence agencies, who could never get credit for their great deeds because it was all a secret....
That was a statement. I am pretty sure Ghislaine considers herself and Epstein to be heroes.

This right here, there are more documents to come. Read up on the NXIVM trial for the blueprint and then times that case by 1000.

It is not just NXIVM

There are lots of secret organisations, usually involving "women's empowerment clubs" and secret scoieties (men's empowerment also) that use similar modus operandi.

Sex cults are everywhere.

I will be writing more about them on the "Let's Tale About Sects" thread.

I have so much to share, all of it very disturbing.

I would advise archiving links to any websites about NXIVM, or anything really before posting them here.

Very often websites that claim to be opposed to cults are just the same or other cults in disguise. You can't be too careful

It is a horrible, mudane fact that in many sex cults men manipulate a pyrimidal structure of compliant, enthusiastic females who compete to please them.

Somtimes women are at the top, but mostly it is men.

These cults have been around since the year dot.

Cults can overthrow dynasties and profoundly influence politics

some links of possible interest, as a foundation for further research

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agapemonites

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khlysts

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_South_Korean_political_scandal

I have very mixed feelings about the BBC but one of the really good things that they have produces is the Peaky Blinders series

The Russian criminal family in it turn out to be Khlysts

The series is also very good at showing astroturfing prior to the internet.

Just thought I'd mention it incase anyone is shielding or otherwise locking own and hasn't seen Peaky Blinders yet

Another network worthy of research that resonates with Epstein, Maxwell et al is this

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Bernard_(yogi)

We really, really need to talk about yoga, misogyny and scapegoating

There will ne news to come in days to follow about Epstein's links to cults and to yoga and wellness

aw, what the hell

You read it here first folks!

The Mail on Sunday (a superior publication to the Daily Mail IMO - they run some great pieces on cults) have a very interesting piece that is relevant to my interests about a former girlfriend of Epstein

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8584033/Will-Jeffrey-Epsteins-secret-ex-lift-lid-Prince-Andrew-sex-abuse-claims.html

To make it easy for readers I have included archived pages to demonstrate who this woman is

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This kind of stuff is right up my alley

THE ART OF AWAKENING
A Shamanic Breathwork and Meditation led by Omar Ahmadzai
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The Men's Circle
MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 12, 2016
12:00PM 1:00PM
Men, we invite you to connect to your authentic selves with an hour of mindful sitting and conversation with life coach Maria Caso.
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readers familiar with the cults I research will understand the relevance of this

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familiar territory for me here
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and to my complete lack of surprise we have this

Memories and emotions live on in the cells in our bodies and become part of our blue print. For us to unhinge from them, we have to consciously address them. Our Healing Bodywork services help you release, re-balance and re-discover optimal wellness.

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There is more but I'll post it on the Talk About Sects page later

running late

GM is deeply damaged. IMO she needed to feel power over others.
NOTHING she grew up with excuses her behaviour but explains rather a lot.

hoodathunkit, I don't know whether to be impressed by your posts or horrified, not just by their contents, but rather for you?

hoodathunkit Your research skills are unparalleled, thanks for the links.

You know how deep this actually runs like a real life Hydra. I was hoping that NXIVM would be more widely covered and more people would see how truly prolific it is. I had my eyes opened to the true extent of international trafficking after discovering the Laura Silsby in Haiti story scholarship.law.ufl.edu/facultypub/282/ and the Weiner laptop case. That led to further links and soon you discover that they are all connected and it is much bigger than 1 person and is actually built into the "System".

Archive offline Luckily the Channers are adept at making the links and archiving websites/documents/pictures/videos before they are removed. Just looking at Twitter trends there are thousands of people who want to see justice.

Oh yeah there is a thread on Lipstickalley where they are going through the unsealed documents
www.lipstickalley.com/threads/models-presidents-billionaires-actors-referenced-in-newly-unsealed-ghislaine-maxwell-documents.3765605/

Articles about the 12 year olds that were "gifted"
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7371693/Jean-Luc-Brunel-gave-Jeffrey-Epstein-three-poor-12-year-old-triplets-France-birthday-present.html
www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12260026