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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Sefton Council flies the flag

151 replies

hoteltango · 02/03/2020 14:55

Just seen this on Twitter:

twitter.com/_AdultHumanMale/status/1234452679398711296

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ClitoriaTernatea · 02/03/2020 18:28

I'm so hugely late to the party but why and how is the flag offensive?!

It isn't.

terryleather · 02/03/2020 18:29

Sometimes when I'm feeling really down about all this bs I watch the Posie/Fanny Haddock Sky interview and am immediately cheered - never fails.

Thanks Fanny!

GeordieTerf · 02/03/2020 18:40

But if trans women are ow en, then this flag does include them surely? Confused

hoteltango · 02/03/2020 18:48

It's a pity the flag has been taken down, but at least it was there for a while, and would have got people talking in and around the buildings.

I hope my posting here didn't alert Harrop - but no doubt he spends time in between seeing patients trawling twitter anyway.

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theflushedzebra · 02/03/2020 18:48

Quite - Harrops huffing and puffing just draws attention to the fact they want hidden and unsayable - that transwomen are NOT women, and that a woman is an Adult Human Female.

If twaw the Harrops of this world would not have a major breakdown at the mere sight of that flag.

Top stuff. My thanks to whoever engineered that minor (fairly major!) act of rebellion at Sefton Council. Thanks

ThePurported · 02/03/2020 18:49

Thank you to whoever organised it Star

ErrolTheDragon · 02/03/2020 18:50

No, unless they're taking an additional irrational jump and claiming to be female. Which is a word defined in terms of biology, applicable to all organisms which reproduce sexually

'of or denoting the sex that can bear offspring or produce eggs, distinguished biologically by the production of gametes (ova) which can be fertilized by male gametes.'

TW are Male 'of or denoting the sex that produces gametes, especially spermatozoa, with which a female may be fertilized or inseminated to produce offspring.'

While it's possible to have treatments which render you infertile, humans (like all other mammals) cannot change sex. (As Dr Harrop presumably knows full well.)

theflushedzebra · 02/03/2020 18:55

At least we have the photos of that glorious flag Grin

Transwomen are male - sing it loud sisters.

Women's rights are human rights.

theflushedzebra · 02/03/2020 19:08

Statement from Sefton Council.

They support all members of the community. Except women. Women aren't allowed a flag. Or a definition.

Sefton Council flies the flag
FrogsFrogs · 02/03/2020 19:18

Some tw id as female.
Some id as 'cis' women

...

MrsSnippyPants · 02/03/2020 19:20

Yes they do Frogs but it means fuck all.

Cwenthryth · 02/03/2020 19:25

“A potential issue regarding the messaging on the flag”

Oh I’d laugh if it wasn’t all so horrific. This was my reply to sefton councils statement on twitter btw:

The messaging of you removing a flag stating the definition of a woman at the behest of a man calling on his 12K twitter followers to harrass you is not an issue at all though, clearly 🤨

Grow a spine, support women.

(Could have done with some punctuation, but, y’know, Twitter!)

MrsSnippyPants · 02/03/2020 19:28

If anyone objects to the flag being removed due to some squealing MRAs then the Chief Executive is Dwayne Johnson [email protected]

OhHolyJesus · 02/03/2020 19:41

Thanks Mrs snippy I was just about to ask...

WineIsMyCarb · 02/03/2020 19:47

Emailed the chief exec, thanks @mrssnippypants

ThinEndoftheWedge · 02/03/2020 19:57

In the Posie video, Harrop tried to pretend that he didn’t think there was anything intrinsically transphobic about W = AHF, stating that his objection was because it was specifically placed outside the Labour conference.

Hmm - not that I believed him then - but no hint of pretence now!

How the hell is he still a registered Dr?!

Does anyone know if the press has been alerted about their removal of the flag, particularly with their reference to LGBTQ+ rights without bothering to mention the rights of women and girls- on this day of celebration in particular?

Floisme · 02/03/2020 20:09

I think the statement from Sefton Council is pretty good too. Loads of people will ask what the problematic messaging was and then go, 'Eh?'

ThinEndoftheWedge · 02/03/2020 20:11

Harrop is now attempting to harass a female (surprise) councillor who public ally thinks women and girls should have the right, as afforded under current legislation, to the dignity, privacy and safety of single sex spaces and who thinks the defunding of the Vancouver Rape Relief centre was wrong.

A politician the vast majority of the population would actually agree with.

BringbackLang · 02/03/2020 20:18

Not a good look saying the dictionary definition of the word woman his transphobic. I fact it's down right ridiculous.

BoreOfWhabylon · 02/03/2020 20:23

Seen on Twitter:

If everything sounds like a ‘dog whistle’ it might be an inner-ear infection caused by swimming too long in queer theory.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 02/03/2020 20:27

www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/merseyside-council-removes-flags-outside-17849454

Excellent article where Harrop comes across as entirely sane.

A message on the flags, seen flying outside the town halls today, read 'Woman, noun, adult female'.

He tweeted: "Hi @seftoncouncil the flag you’re flying at the moment is a hostile transphobic dog whistle, recognised as a symbol and brand of one of Britain’s most outspoken and visible trans-antagonists, and the leader of a transphobic hate group.

The council has since confirmed that the flags were removed - with a spokesman admitting they didn't realise the controversial nature of the messaging they had been asked to display.

Should peak a few more people Grin

StealthPolarBear · 02/03/2020 20:32

Cat = small furry feline
I expect to be reported as a hate incident any time now.
What other facts will be reclaimed? Earth = round?

theflushedzebra · 02/03/2020 20:46

Earth = round is clearly a discriminatory hate crime towards the beliefs of flat earthers Wink

Never ceases to amaze me how Harrop is able to display such contempt towards women. I would have hated to see the state of his eyebrows today - probably on the crown of his head with sheer rage and indignation at... the definition of woman Grin

Datun · 02/03/2020 20:46

The council has since confirmed that the flags were removed - with a spokesman admitting they didn't realise the controversial nature of the messaging they had been asked to display.

I could actually pack up my entire house, and those of my extended family, and it still wouldn't fill the huge capacity that this sherpa has.

OhHolyJesus · 02/03/2020 20:51

Local press have been alerted Thin if anyone wants to tweet the Council and @ the daily mail or something with this image that would be great.

(I'm not on Twitter.)

Support all members of the community my arse.

Sefton Council flies the flag