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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Ballsy Ricky Gervais takes aim at Yaniv

134 replies

MonsteraCheeseplant · 30/10/2019 19:07

God no woman would get away with this
twitter.com/rickygervais/status/1189610636344549377

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Oncewasblueandyellowtwo · 30/10/2019 22:51

10k plus likes! What's happening?
Please please Ricky keep it up. So many people are replying saying they had never heard of Yaniv and are shocked after they looked up about it.
And some of those replys are fantastic.

WomanBornNotWorn · 31/10/2019 00:29

The almostvtoal absence of negative reactions, tho... What could be causing that? I wonder?

FilthyBiscuit · 31/10/2019 00:46

Ricky is totally GC and I am so grateful that someone with his profile and not give a shit attitude is on our side. He's shining the light of this to the masses without the cries of transphobia or threats to die in a grease fire. Why is that I wonder?

zebrasdontwearbras · 31/10/2019 01:05

I've aways been an absolute fan of Ricky's - right back from the Office - Extras is one of the funniest things I've ever watched - and this makes me love him even more.

Hornets · 31/10/2019 09:30

Someone's not happy...

twitter.com/mimmymum/status/1189706725781164032

HandsOffMyRights · 31/10/2019 09:36

Hornets - some of those replies to her tweet sum up my thoughts exactly! Smile

Ereshkigal · 31/10/2019 09:47

What's Mimmy saying, for the many of us who she's blocked?

HandsOffMyRights · 31/10/2019 09:51

Tonight I unfollowed
@rickygervais

Cue various replies about how gutted Ricky must be Grin

One of the advantages/curses of being booted off Twitter is I can now view McKinnon's, Jones' and Adrian's tweets, plus those from others who had blocked me.

OrchidInTheSun · 31/10/2019 09:59

God it really demonstrates the madness of the trans cult when Helen is standing up for a grifter who put poor immigrant women out of business and has a deeply unhealthy interest in menstruation in young girls Sad

HandsOffMyRights · 31/10/2019 10:00

Ricky replied to Helen an hour ago

Ballsy Ricky Gervais takes aim at Yaniv
RoyalCorgi · 31/10/2019 10:18

I'm amazed that Helen has been following Ricky Gervais all this time. I know that Helen isn't the brightest lamp on the street but you have to be actively not paying attention not to have noticed that Gervais is not on board the trans train to Wokeville.

HandsOffMyRights · 31/10/2019 10:27

Ricky would be pretty hard to re-educate wouldn't he?

Maybe they thought he'd retract like Robert Webb did when Mermaids 'had a word'

CranberriesChoccy · 31/10/2019 10:29

I think the JY situation needs people from trans rights groups speaking up and saying they don't feel JY represents what they are fighting for. In every story I've seen "she" gets called an activist. If the trans community don't counter that, the public will assume support, even if it is silent. And of course a huge part of the problem is the very vocal TRA's throw words like transphobe and t**f around like confetti so how can they denounce JY without losing credibility in their own community?

OrchidInTheSun · 31/10/2019 10:40

I'm sure she hasn't been following him @RoyalCorgi. But she does have an overweening sense of self-importance and probably imagines she can destroy his career with a single devastating tweet Hmm

NotBadConsidering · 31/10/2019 10:40

I think the JY situation needs people from trans rights groups speaking up and saying they don't feel JY represents what they are fighting for

But they can’t do that because it undoes all of their arguments. If you shout TWAW, you have to accept Yaniv should be treated as one for the purposes of beauty therapy. If you shout TWAW, you have to accept Yaniv has female genitalia. If you shout TWAW and that includes Yaniv, you have to accept that people with predatory behaviour will also shout they are a woman for personal gain. They can’t say “TWAW, except Yaniv obviously” because that undoes the whole thing.

So instead, they say nothing.

ThisIsSamhain · 31/10/2019 10:41

I saw his most recent stand up.

He talks alot about trans issues.

He's fantastic.

Fieldofgreycorn · 31/10/2019 10:59

No you can say TWAW without believing they’ve literally changed biological sex class.

Shesaidwhay · 31/10/2019 11:36

Why are they acting so dim?! The old ‘ooh don’t judge all trans people on one perv that would be like judging all women on Myra Hindley, Rose West etc...’ THAT’S NOT THE FUCKING POINT! The point is that the Self-ID law would entitle the type of aforementioned abusive, autogynephillic, perverted creep into women’s spaces. It gives them the right to say ‘i am exactly the same as you’ to a 12 year old girl at a topless swimming party. THAT is the absurdity that Ricky Gervais is flagging up. Not that he thinks all trans women are perverts. Why can’t they see this??!!

And Mimmymum thinks that sitting down and talking about the struggles of a gender dysphoric child will make Ricky Gervais suddenly think ‘oh maybe I shouldn’t bring attention to the huge scandal that JY’s case is flagging up because it’s upsetting to children who are about to embark on their own journey of transition’. I feel sorry for any child with gender dysphoria but that doesn’t stop me from being deeply, deeply worried about the implications of self-ID and the rights of women to have access to female only spaces when they choose. I wish someone could post words to that effect on her Twitter. I don’t do Twitter unfortunately (?)

BeMoreMagdalen · 31/10/2019 12:09

she does have an overweening sense of self-importance and probably imagines she can destroy his career with a single devastating tweet

QFT.

3timeslucky · 31/10/2019 12:09

No you can say TWAW without believing they’ve literally changed biological sex class

No you can't. Because women is the word that describes a particular biological sex class (the female ones, the women). And that is precisely why TW are not Women. They are TW which is means men who are presenting themselves as women.

When you fuck with language (and science) you fuck with the capacity to communicate.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 31/10/2019 12:42

"Woman" is an actual thing that exists, not a nebulous description of anyone with a certain personality and set of interests. "TWAW" is like "boats are cars" - it's not true, both those saying it and those nodding along know it, but for some reason both parties have decided that there is some benefit to pretending that it is.

Unfortunately for them the rest of us still know that boats are not cars no matter how many times they repeat it, or argue that sails are like wheels really and anyway we all exist in a state of both sail and wheel having on a metaphysical level. Many may have played along out of politeness thus far, but the farther into "and therefore the boat has every right to destroy an entire fleet of cars if that's what it takes for the boat to feel valid" territory we get the thinner the public's patience is wearing.

People are tired of being forced to lie.

HauntedPinecone · 31/10/2019 13:42

No you can say TWAW without believing they’ve literally changed biological sex class

You can't say this though. I probably would have said similar to the above, before I peak-transed, but I won't now. It isn't true, TW are not women and being nice and pretending otherwise is causing a total shitstorm!

ErrolTheDragon · 31/10/2019 13:45

No you can say TWAW without believing they’ve literally changed biological sex class.

Not for any meaningful definition of the word 'woman' you can't.

Datun · 31/10/2019 14:30

Yanniv isn't representative of all trans people. Yanniv is representative of all perverts, misogynists, predators and paedophiles, however they identify, who can effortlessly exploit the trans ideology from start to finish.

Which is why everyone tends to say we don't care what you wear or do, as long as you remove the framework which allows any male to access or target women and girls.

Helen's defence is to act outraged that anyone would possibly think their child could be a predator.

Which is why turning this on individuals is a complete waste of time. We don't make laws against rape, for those men who won't rape. We make them for those men who will. Burglary laws aren't for people who don't steal, etc.

Yanniv demonstrates exactly why the ideology is damaging. And Gervais knows it.