India Willoughby identifying as a cis woman

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And the Tra's are not liking it. Surely if you say you are a cis woman then you totally are one #nodebate.
Or is Cis somehow exempt from being able to identify in or out of.

You are what you say you are case closed.

Funny how when women over a certain age who don't have blue hair say they don't id as cis they are told to stfu it is what they are.

It was only a matter of time really

She can identify as a cis woman if she wants. I myself identify as a woman as I was born a woman.

IW is an odd one. Talks relative sense on some stuff then comes out with absolute bollocks like this.

There's another thread in this.

I've seen one person defending India, on Twitter.

This could be useful. If cis means both women and those men who've had genital surgery, we'll need a new word to describe women.

And that will highlight the madness of the whole thing.

I can't keep up - so TWACW now??! Talk about having your cake and eating it.

Doesn't have to make any sense because that's the point I guess. It's just supposed to keep everyone in a permanent state of 'don't know which fucking way is up anymore' uncertainty.

If India is a cis woman then I’m not.

I wonder which word I could use to describe myself? 🤔

I wonder which word I could use to describe myself?

Supermodel? That's what I identify as

I identify as a honey badger. Don't you oppress me!

I'm sticking with the traditional meaning of woman, girl, female, she, her, it's the only sensible response. IW can call themselves a cis woman if they like, it's got bigger all to do with women.

I carefully avoided using a himself in a recent post as I believe it would break mumsnet guidelines and I have no wish to be silenced.

What?
So it’s a man who has changed into a woman and wants to be known as a cis woman. Cis woman is just a female, who feels female? Is that right. So confused.

Let India have ‘cis’. Nobody else wants it. Trans people invented the word; let them have it back.

Ha EXACTLY this @alwayscominghome

This could be useful. If cis means both women and those men who've had genital surgery, we'll need a new word to describe women

Ummmm, woman ?

But seriously this is rubbish. But from what I saw of IW on some clips from BB, they’re not a very nice person, whatever they identify as.

I wonder which word I could use to describe myself

Woman and female is how I describe myself.
I am not s cis anything. I am a woman, plain and simple.

Agree with always IW and any other men who want it can have cis. It’s certainly not my label.

She wants to separate herself from the bearded trans women who have made no physical changes. She sees a difference between those who pass as she does and those who are visibly Transwomen. She is breaking the rules thus earning the wrath. There must be many transwomen like her who have made huge amounts of effort and spent a fortune on surgery who are now classified in the same bracket as every transwomen from Ian Huntley to Jessica Yaniv. It must be perturbing as transwomen like her were always living fully as women without much controversy up until recently. There is so much nuance which is lost totally in ‘acceptance without exception, #nodebate’

I am not s cis anything. I am a woman, plain and simple

Yes x100

So, the TRAs give themselves the designation ‘woman’, no debate, deal with it etc and assign natal women the designation cis. We, of the cis class, are told we have no rights to discuss any of this. IW turns further logical contortions and is calling themselves cis - voluntarily classifying themselves into the silenced lesser version of womanliness.

Does this mean IW will now be sitting in a polite and agreeable silence?

@fredafrogspawn Ian Huntley was fabricated by the Daily Star, they admitted it. But insert Danielle Muscato, Karen White, Alex Drummond, etc instead of Huntley and your point stands.

Transwomen like her were always living fully as women

Except no.

They push cis onto us, then claim that for themselves too?
It doesn't even make sense. Is she going to claim she's intersex like JY too? Is that the current tra strategy?