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Throat puncher arrested

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Lymphy · 21/03/2019 16:25

Just seen Glinner tweet about this. A bit of common sense prevails.

www.eveningtelegraph.co.uk/fp/dundee-trans-pride-headliner-dropped-after-alleged-threat-to-throat-punch-womens-group/

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HerFemaleness · 21/03/2019 21:27

m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=570921380088052&id=100339780479550

^^ Trans Pride Scotland's statement.

tl:dr women are to blame for male violence.

Lymphy · 21/03/2019 21:36

Ah that makes sense now, they only threatened to punch women in the throat as an act of self defence.

Self defence against a leaflet.

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Popchyk · 21/03/2019 21:41

And it is transphobic for anyone to know this person's previous name and details of their transition.

Which are on YouTube.

Put there by the person themselves.

These people are delusional.

abuseofpowercomesasnosurprise · 21/03/2019 21:57

WTF is that statement!!!!!!! Basically excusing it and making them out to be the victim! They're trying to use this as a victory for themselves. DARVO!

AbsintheFriends · 21/03/2019 22:00

And they've spelled their esteemed headliner's name wrong.

Ereshkigal · 21/03/2019 22:04

I am logged in on FB but can't see it

abuseofpowercomesasnosurprise · 21/03/2019 22:06

I looked at their Instagram yesterday and there were pictures of them with a beard as a man, also with their male name on, there was no attempt to hide this at all and yet it is considered a crime if anyone else refers to it? TransPride are demanding that everyone enter into a coercive relationship with them.

JessicaWakefieldSVH · 21/03/2019 22:07

Apparently almost half of trans people don’t feel comfortable using public toilets.

I haven’t used a public loo since learning, here, that males may use them.

Ask for your own space, I’d happily support you.

abuseofpowercomesasnosurprise · 21/03/2019 22:32

Archived TransPrideScotland statement: archive.fo/qulNn

And Peyton's YouTube channel from today, with videos of them as a man and with their male name on: archive.fo/PxZw7

BettyDuMonde · 21/03/2019 22:44

In the vegan straight edge YouTube channel video (uploaded 1st March) PR mentions Laura Jane Grace of Against Me! who had a well established music career prior to transitioning:
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laura_Jane_Grace

(I chuckled to myself because PR seemed to think the Grace was a punk rock trans trailblazer and thus PR’s inspiration for a public, punk rock, transition. Oldies like me, of course, know that Wayne/Jayne County did it more than three decades earlier - County transitioned in 79, Grace in 2012)

Today’s statement from Trans Pride is at odds with Rose’s own story of public transition.

ColeHawlins · 21/03/2019 22:50

Good. Let's hope it catches on.

Ereshkigal · 21/03/2019 23:29

Thank you for archiving the Trans Pride Scotland statement.

if the transphobia is adversely affecting TransPride to the extent that people are excluding themselves from our day for reasons of safety

Er, no, commenter, not sure that's the true reason Peyton isn't performing.

hipsterfun · 21/03/2019 23:38

Looking at the archived YouTube, I’m wondering what on earth happened. The person PR used to be seems so... normal, tbh.

PPs are right - there’s something else going on that isn’t having fun mucking about with clothes and make up. I’d be beside myself if this were my DS Sad

PreseaCombatir · 22/03/2019 08:35

How the fuck is asking people to throat punch women ‘tongue in cheek’.
It literally is Humpty Dumpty-ism at it’s worst finest

AstonishedFemalePersonator · 22/03/2019 08:40

Figures from Stonewall suggest that two out of five trans people have been threatened with violence in the last five years.

What? Literal violence? You know, like mis-gendering?

Katvonmythicbiowoman · 22/03/2019 10:38

The Trans pride Scotland page is full of hysteria

No, you daft pillocks, the nasty biological women are not going to come and make you feel unsafe. FFS

We complained about a transwoman's threat to throat punch women they disagree with. No one has threatened you. Only your special feelz.

Get a grip. How on earth do they deal with life?

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AstonishedFemalePersonator · 22/03/2019 10:47

WTF?

buzzbobbly · 22/03/2019 10:52

The world is not kind to trans people, especially trans women. Groups like For Women Scotland and A Women's Place and activists who share their values consider themselves allies to the trans community, but nothing could be further from the truth. These groups continue to spread the rhetoric that we are nothing more than dangerous men, that trans kids don't exist, and that our rights to legal recognition should be undone.

Well, we know what sex wrote this post then, don't we. Forget the trans men, they're irrelevant and can go fuck themselves.

Funny how this sort of stuff inadvertently 'leaks out' when they don't' realise. Like testosterone.

Alicethroughtheblackmirror · 22/03/2019 12:32

So self-defence against the literal violence of a leaflet that Peyton found in an old picture?

What is this provocation and abuse they claim? It looks as though the first anyone was aware of this person's existence was when they put up that threat?

Meanwhile woke council leader Adam McVey jumped in on that defamatory pink saltire article but doesn't see need to reassure Edinburgh women that he takes threats of actual violence seriously and Mhairi Hunter is having another go at Joan about intolerance for objecting to the word womxn but again is wriggling like a fish to avoid having to condemn actual intolerance.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 22/03/2019 12:46

Part of the narrative of some of these groups is violence to women. That is very disturbing as these are the very vocal ones who demand access to women only areas. Foxed demanding the keys to the chicken coop?

Alicethroughtheblackmirror · 22/03/2019 12:49

"The chickens made me eat them! I'm the victim here..."

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 22/03/2019 13:07

Whilst complaining about feathers ticking their throat.

Alicethroughtheblackmirror · 22/03/2019 13:35

Fekko Grin

Found this. Trans Pride Scotland apparently are feminists who support all women! They might need a disclaimer about this not including women who "ask for it"

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MsJeminaPuddleduck · 22/03/2019 13:58

Hipsterfun - I just watched clips pre transition 2 yrs ago and was shocked. Seems friendly, approachable, easy manner, looks healthy. But the recent photos looks gaunt, totally different and it's not just the get up.

It does suggest something else is going on. Obv don't know what's going on with this person but think too often people feel like they don't fit and think put all their hopes in 'transitioning' as a cure all. Then when that leaves them even more alienated (because most people don't actually believe one can change sex) they then blame it on people not accepting them as their true self and it spirals out of control.

I'm angry at the Transpride response but I'm really worried about all these young (and not actually so young people) who clearly need help but instead just get affirmed into something that is going to exacerbate their feeling of 'not fitting'.

Tap335 · 22/03/2019 14:13

Agree. This is a such a toxic ideology and it only seems to get young, impressionable people into trouble. I hope this person finds solace and fulfilment in positive activities like music and rethinks their threats towards women. What's the point?