Stonewall and trans activism to be debated on Radio 4 PM

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PM has just started. There is going to be some sort of live debate - sounds like Stonewall are coming on. Don’t know exactly when though.

Damage limitation probably. I doubt they are going to get a grilling, hope to be proven wrong.

It'll be the same old, everyone is accusing transgender people of being a violent risk, they are othering, and so on.

Jonny Best, apparently! I'm excited. I haven't 'heard' him speak before.

Carolyn Quinn is usually pretty good too.

I don't think stonewall are going on there to be challenged - only for validation. Which is what they have been getting from the BBC.

I'd be surprised if there was any challenge. No one will do so for fear of being labeled a 'phobe' of some sort for voicing any opinion other than the accepted minority rules one.

I heard why those who are critical of trans people are demonised.

That’s what I heard too placemats.

Have I missed it?

No, still waiting.

If it hasn't been on yet, then I think the "cram it into the last two minutes so nobody gets to say anything" tactic is in play.

Waiting whilst reading the comments on the petition. The hope is what hurts. I have no real hope for the BBC

Gosh that's a disturbing report regarding people with learning disabilities and the police right now. It's a report from the USA.

Waiting whilst reading the comments on the petition.

Funniest thing is atleast one TRA has signed it to comment that we're all transphobes....

It's awful placemats. Tasering a mentally unwell man 15 times in his bath until he stopped breathing and they couldn't prove his death was linked? His poor parents.

Oooh, like that he mentioned the BBC at the end there

Stonewall has made an UNEQUIVOCAL stance. Stonewall says transwomen ARE women. She's not telling the truth

Debate is happening despite you, Ruth. It's got away from you. You didn't want that debate

So transwomen are women is something that is enshrined in law?

Hello?

Ruth?

This is real life calling.

That's the most energetic I've heard a BBC presenter about this issue

It needs naming.
Women don’t have penises. Most people who think we’re bigots and on the wrong side of history have no idea that self identification means penis owners can access all areas.

I'm really glad that Ruth stated Transwoman are women. That will have given some people listening pause

I WISH Jonny could have got the Trans Umbrella over. What the term Transwoman encompasses

“Trans women are women is enshrined in law”? Ffs

Hardly a live debate was it? Shame there was no to and fro between Best and Hunt.

Yes TwistedStitch his parents are vulnerable too against the might of the law to get some sort of reparation for their son's murder.

Ruth Hunt said 'transwomen are women' is enshrined in law in the 2004 Act. That is a lie.