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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Who is the driving force behind the Trans agenda?

112 replies

StandingOvulation · 03/10/2018 17:28

Long time lurker becoming braver in FC.

I'd like to know where all the money and power is coming from driving this juggernaut. I've read through many many threads, but not really worked it out.

Also I also would like to know how the change from transsexual (always thought were very few men, very benign) to the transgender tour de force of today.

Obviously I know the ultimate aim of the TRA - obliteration of woman. Sad

Please be basic with me, I'm nowhere near as well read as the intellectuals I see in here.

Tia

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StandingOvulation · 03/10/2018 17:31

Probably not the clearest OP.

Is there a single (wealthy powerful) Joe Bloggs who started this or, maybe, is there a secret committee somewhere meeting laughing at how the world is changing in their favour?

Or something more organic than that?

Are there actually Names?

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TimeLady · 03/10/2018 17:37

A major player is undoubtedly Stonewall.

Ruth Hunt became CEO in 2014 and she talks about how the T joined the LGB here.

www.canterbury.ac.uk/inspire/articles/spring2018/ruth-hunt-chief-executive-of-stonewall.aspx

ErrolTheDragon · 03/10/2018 17:41

I have seen articles about big American funders, but I can't remember the details now - but this is definitely a good question.

CaptainKirkssparetupee · 03/10/2018 17:41

Stonewall, they have a lot of power.

PierreBezukov · 03/10/2018 17:43

I read that it's drug companies - pharmaceuticals. They want to get thousands of people on lifelong drugs.

TimeLady · 03/10/2018 17:44

This was an earlier thread, probably with the article you mean

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3173651-Article-on-the-funding-behind-transgender-lobbying-organisations

PierreBezukov · 03/10/2018 17:44

Even better if it's government ideology and NHS policy so the NHS has to fund it.

NotTerfNorCis · 03/10/2018 17:45

When I took over as Chief Executive in 2014, same-sex marriage had just been introduced and everyone said that Stonewall should just shut down as there was no more work to be done. However, we are proving time and time again that our work is more important than ever.

From the Ruth Hunt article. Stonewall are looking for relevancy and here is a fight they can join.

Melamin · 03/10/2018 17:46

Stonewall get a lot of money and they need an agenda, now that same sex marriage is legal. And Ruth Hunt needs to make her mark.

A lot of money comes from government from various funds, but the rest.........?

(and who are the trustees?)

Melamin · 03/10/2018 17:46

Stonewall are now very establishment.

Manderleyagain · 03/10/2018 17:47

Someone linked to an article by shiela jeffreys about the international movement since 1990. It was on Dr radfem website and worth a read of you can google.

TopBitchoftheWitches · 03/10/2018 17:49

stonewalls name and symbol are at the bottom of letters from my sons college.

They are everywhere.

bitingcat · 03/10/2018 17:50

I guess it could be coming from anywhere. These people use social media to push an agenda and their followers can generate that person a lot of money to further their cause. They make out that to be accepting of the trans agenda is what any liberal minded person should happily do.

Bowlofbabelfish · 03/10/2018 17:50

This is a long read but it’s good.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3328210-Follow-the-money-who-is-funding-the-US-transborg

Coyoacan · 03/10/2018 18:03

Every day I am more amazed than before at how many nasty interests are being served by this agenda. Obviously the pharmaceutical industry is the one that most profits, but MRAs and paedophiles are getting a lot out of this too. And it is tearing the left apart, so another goal.

RepealtheGRA · 03/10/2018 18:04

I think it’s Jennifer Bilek who writes on this. Is she still on twitter?

Danaquestionseverything · 03/10/2018 18:11

Bowlofbabelfish

Thanks I read your link. I can't wrap my head around this. So frightening. I think I need to take some time out to process. I don't really know what else to say except thanks to everyone for their research. Shit.

Bowlofbabelfish · 03/10/2018 18:17

I’m still struggling to understand how such a small number of patients, even on a lifetime course of medicalisation, could generate the sort of revenue that would justify this.

For context, it takes about a billion dollars to bring the average drug to market. That’s why drugs are expensive - the money is recouped and then the profit starts only after that.

One key difference is the lifetime of the revenue stream. A novel drug has a limited patent life and that includes the time it take to do trials - companies usually only have 5-10 years to make a profit before generics are available. Trans patients of course are there for life, so I suppose they can charge what they want, but I’m still not convinced that a simple ‘these people will be paying for hormones and surgery’ is enough of a profit driver.

This and the fact that they are also engaging in such aggressive social engineering makes me convinced that simple pharma profits are not the main driver here. They will be a nice side earner for whomever has an interest, but I don’t think it’s the root cause.

I think I would be deleted for explaining fully what I think the main driver of this is.

CaptainKirkssparetupee · 03/10/2018 18:20

pedophiles

They seem to be benefiting massively.

Danaquestionseverything · 03/10/2018 18:20

Rockspiders?

SugarandVinegar · 03/10/2018 18:31

George Soros - this is a globa/western agenda; much bigger than Stonewall.

Coyoacan · 03/10/2018 18:35

That's an interesting point you make, Bowlofbabelfish, but don't forget all the other drugs these poor people are going to have to take to deal with the illnesses induced by the initial ones.

This situation does however pre-date Ruth Hunt.

TimeLady · 03/10/2018 18:42

Stonewall is the respected branding, the front man in all of this. I'd not be surprised if there were others pulling strings in the background.

Paedophiles didn't disappear with the demise of PIE. And there's lots of money in porn. Just sayin'.

averylongtimeago · 03/10/2018 18:48

Stonewall is a part and is being used imo.
For something this big, there must be real money and pier behind it.

Feel like I should be wearing a tinfoil hat-

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