Shon Faye and the Stickers

[Mrbatmun]

So Shon has been ripping down a pro-woman sticker allegedly found in a toilet and taken some selfies. This picture says a lot about Shon, but not quite what Shon thinks it does.

A picture of yourself holding up a sticker which says 'women's sex based rights' which you have proudly ripped up. Not a great look is it?

Lol!

C*s isn't an accepted word here.

You're going to miss the school bus dearie.

Why are you so obsessed with genitals?

A question perhaps better addressed to Heather Peto:

mobile.twitter.com/doedoe90303811/status/1037410065592905733

Or Jess Bradley:

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6003331/Britains-official-transgender-student-officer-suspended.html

Or Shon Faye:

twitter.com/msjenniferjames/status/941604527223996416?lang=en

I could go on but frankly I'm sick of it. The people who are most obsessed with genitalia, usually their own, are prominent transactivists and quite honestly I'd rather they continued their obsession in the privacy of their mum's basement rather than flaunting it in our faces.

I am not a cis woman, I am just a plain, ordinary, run of the mill, been around for thousands of years in this form, woman. I don't need a made up label.

a women with a penis

In what way is such a person a woman?

'Because they say they are' doesn't cut it.

How is calling someone a man 'dehumanising' them? Are men not humans anymore?

Oh also, from skimming through another page of comments- it's not an own goal for Shon- she's literally ripping up a sticker that dehumanises her. What do you feel she owes you?

You need to pop that on the right thread...

Thats how the forum works

Because there is almost no evidence to support the claim that trans women are a threat to cis women. There's loads of evidence to support the claim that cis men are, however.

Almost no evidence?

The idea that male people pose a different threat to women based in their declared gender makes no sense. A male transperson is a male person who has declared themselves trans, nothing more.

Oh dear...

I know from the heights of middle class wokeness, it's hard to see the little common people, but "women" with penises have been a very real threat to vulnerable women in places where they might expect protection - prisons, rape shelters etc.

How does this mysterious ability for a fully intact male to transform and stop being a threat work? He puts on red shoes, clicks them 3 times and suddenly all that socialization and male pattern violence vanishes?

It's a bit like Catholic priests. They swore an oath to God, so they'd never transgress and anyone who said they did was lying or bigots or they promised never to do or again and some soft touch believed them.

You, my dear, are the Catholic church / BBC / Rotherham social work service of the future.

Evidence please that 'trans women are way more likely to be targetedl?

As for transwomen posing no risk to women, in the U.K., half the transpeople in prison are in there for sex crimes. That suggests that transwomen are more of a risk to women than men actually.

As for transwomen posing no risk to women, in the U.K., half the transpeople in prison are in there for sex crimes. That suggests that transwomen are more of a risk to women than men actually

Good point well made Orchid

I am not a cis woman, I am just a plain, ordinary, run of the mill, been around for thousands of years in this form, woman.

Totally with you on the spirit of this, but it kind of makes you sound like one of the immortals from Highlander. Needs more Queen soundtrack.

You, my dear, are the Catholic church / BBC / Rotherham social work service of the future.

This is so true. We know it. They know we know it. And their attempts to shut women up are actually having the Streisand Effect and spreading the word so even more people know it.

We see you!

"So, a classic gay rainbow plus nazism, fascism, feeling blue, feeling girly, and an ugly white triangle..."

Comment on the revamped flag:
twitter.com/3EPKAJI0/status/1037390630203392000?s=20

I'd assess someone who spends their time ripping up stickers about women's rights (or the Twitter equivalent) at about the same level of potential threat as the F4J types, based on the common ground of having a far higher level of resentful hostility towards women than the average male.

Whatevszz

Doesn't seem to be much love for that flag in any of the comments,

I bet BAME people are really thrilled that they've randomly been lumped into a group that's meant to be about sexuality. I'm going to tell some of my more traditional in-laws...

I'm amused that the actual message is now gone, but the title "Die Nazi scum" remains in my inbox.

Hey, @MNHQ - it's no less threatening and offensive, ya know!

But seriously, in all my adult life (and I'm 60) of being more left-wing than these prats have ever in their pathetic, sad lives could imagine, I've never been described as remotely 'Nazi' (I'll take 'scum' - everyone's entitled to an opinion).

And when you've spent your adult life challenging stereotypes, fighting the class struggle, racism, for women's rights, etc - the notion that a pathetic, narcissistic, self-obsessed bloke with a nail polish fetish could call you a "Nazi" really puts their intelligence and politics into perspective, doesn't it?

VickyEadie

What's happened? Have you had an abusive message sent to you on here?

Are HQ going to have to make a rule where you have to have posted for a couple of weeks/months before you can PM?

I’m really confused as to how not questioning the TWAW mantra (and instead believing TWATW) is ‘dehumanising’?

Because girls, boys and men aren’t women either, but are still very much human?

See Razor Blade thread, Datun.

(known as the "carrying angle") which is also noticeable when men and women lift and rotate their forearms?

I didn't - but I was just finishing reading the thread before asking about it - because that elbows in, hands out, I can't physically do - my elbows naturally go out to the side when I hold things up. Now I'm a tad porky, and have large boobs, so I was going to ask if this is something that other women can do, or if it's another one of those poses (like the knock-kneed one) that Shon's doing to look feminine (even though it doesn't)

As to the no proof of of males being a risk to females - scroll up and down on the board - there's statistics from unisex changing rooms released today, there's been more than one incident in women's prisons, and multiple other incidents just over the last few months. Not to mention the murders.