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It will never happen - resource thread.

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MipMipMip · 27/08/2018 18:24

I'm hoping Rowantrees will be a contributor on here! This is basically a thread to keep together stories of all the things that we have been told will never happen. Please put what the item is about as well as a link for clarity.

Thanks.

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LostMyLastHatfulOfWords · 16/03/2022 16:22

Thank-you so much for bringing all this together.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 18/03/2022 08:06

Extremely shocking entry and current thread

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4507790-Hospital-told-police-patient-not-raped-because-attacker-transgender

ScreamingMeMe · 18/03/2022 10:46

From this thread:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4507790-Hospital-told-police-patient-not-raped-because-attacker-transgender

A hospital told the police that a patient could not have been raped because her alleged attacker was trans, the House of Lords has heard.

The attack took place a year ago and the woman reported it but when officers contacted the hospital, which has not been named, they were told “that there was no male in the hospital, therefore the rape could not have happened”.

Baroness Nicholson of Winterbourne, who raised the issue during a debate on single-sex wards, continued: “They forgot that there was CCTV, nurses and observers.

“None the less, it has taken nearly a year for the hospital to agree that there was a male on the ward and, yes, this rape happened.

web.archive.org/web/20220317203204/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/03/17/hospital-told-police-patient-not-raped-alleged-attacker-transgender/

Roseglen84 · 18/03/2022 10:52

[quote Leafstamp]Pensioner arrested after dismembered body found

Not until the last name does the perpetrator referred to as 'she' be explained as 'She now identifies as a transgender woman.'

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-60742364?at_medium=RSS&at_campaign=KARANGA[/quote]
I read that a few days ago, and JUST KNEW from the first few lines of reading that it would be a man.
I was so angry at hte misrepresentation that I complained on the BBC website - yet more bullshit and gaslighting from the BBC.

I notice that the last line from the article 'she now identifies as a transgender woman', has been removed, and right in the middle of the article it just says 'Marcelin - who recently identified as a woman'.
So now they have even taken out any reference to trans at all. So insiduous Angry.
www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60742364
I can't believe they claim to be a news site, it's blatant propaganda.

ScrollingLeaves · 18/03/2022 11:36

Has anyone added the case brought up by Baroness Nicholson at the House of Lords last Wednesday about a woman raped on a hospital ward? When the woman reported the rape and the police investigated they were told there could not have been a rape because they had been told by the hospital that was no male on the ward. It transpired through cctv that there had been. The staff had not divulged the presence of a trans woman as according to annex B of the Equalities Act trans people’s status as being the sex they say must he protected.

It will never happen - resource thread.
ScreamingMeMe · 18/03/2022 13:15

Yes I posted it above. Another "horrified but not altogether surprised" moment for me.

Baroness Nicholson is a marvellous champion of women.

Leafstamp · 18/03/2022 13:54

@Roseglen84 that's shocking that they've changed the article, I'd love to know why.

I've just seen a post on Twitter by Jane Clare Jones that references rapists and swimming champions (Liar Thomas) and says something about people having no idea how furious women are going to get.

Bring. It. On.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 18/03/2022 17:26

Has anyone added the case brought up by Baroness Nicholson at the House of Lords last Wednesday about a woman raped on a hospital ward?

Yes I posted a link to the mumsnet thread.

ScreamingMeMe · 18/03/2022 22:56

Clive Simpson on YouTube has made some videos on "trans" offenders. Well worth a watch, they are well done. So far he has covered Dana Rivers, Evie Amanti, Donna Perry and Katie Dolatowski.

ScreamingMeMe · 23/03/2022 10:36

Harvey Marcelin, serial killer. Admitted he had "problems with women". (CW: horrific crimes against women.)

www.gbnews.uk/news/bbc-admit-amending-article-to-reveal-woman-killer-suspect-is-male-bodied/252776

Shortly after publication, the BBC article made no mention of the fact the killer is biologically male and only recently identified as female.

On the 15th of March a line at the bottom of the article was added to reflect the sex of the killer.

On the 17th, which features a more prominent reference to the sex of the suspected killer, as well as an added detail the suspect only "recently" identified as the opposite sex.

ScreamingMeMe · 28/03/2022 13:21

Really creepy video (but safe for work). Imagine being in the toilets and encountering this person; even being in a stall and hearing this. Just want to pee my arse.

twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1506359042838446083?s=20&t=GaIjRewo2RpbY0vPK5DcQg

jessieminto · 01/04/2022 21:31

go.mumsnet.com/?xs=1&id=470X1554755&url=mol.im/a/10676217

Man caught filming woman in Primark changing rooms. Not Trans identifying afaik, just abusing the opportunity to be in the changing room next to her.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 01/04/2022 21:38

Today's latest revelation. At least he's been placed in a male prison but I presume his crimes will be recorded as a woman's crime Confused

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10675553/Transgender-father-two-47-awaiting-gender-reassignment-surgery-jailed-three-years.html

LongBlobson · 01/04/2022 21:42

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-60951533

BBC report on Met officer in Primark changing rooms story mentioned above, for those who prefer to avoid the DM.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 01/04/2022 21:45

@LongBlobson

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-60951533

BBC report on Met officer in Primark changing rooms story mentioned above, for those who prefer to avoid the DM.

Ah, the joys of mixed sex changing rooms Hmm
ScreamingMeMe · 01/04/2022 21:51

The Met again! Off topic as nothing to do with self ID, but a PCOS for The Met has been caught wanking in a park in broad daylight.

TortugaRumCakeQueen · 05/04/2022 11:45

LBC are running a story this morning, about changing rooms and toilets, and there are hundreds of people saying that they have never heard of any problems in Unisex toilets. Are these people living in a hole?

ScreamingMeMe · 14/04/2022 16:03

Two women pregnant by trans inmate.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4529563-two-women-pregnant-by-trans-inmate

Helleofabore · 14/04/2022 16:16

www.getreading.co.uk/news/reading-berkshire-news/abusive-woman-called-rail-passengers-23681033

An abusive woman who stripped in front of rail passengers, called them "terrorists" and threatened to take out guns on a train to Reading has been jailed. Trisha Clifton also used the words "kill all the Muslims" while gesturing as if she was wielding a firearm.

Clifton, 49, was on the train on the evening of April 1, Reading Magistrates' Court heard. "While being asked for her ticket during the journey, she began taking various items of clothing off and put them down next to two passengers before looking at them and calling them “terrorists”," said British Transport Police.

"She then threatened “don’t make me get my two handguns out” to the train manager. Clifton continued the barrage of abuse saying “kill all the Muslims” while gesturing as if she was holding a gun.

mmm.... I question that this was in fact an abusive woman.

Helleofabore · 14/04/2022 16:26

In Clifton has a lonnnng history.

www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/one-housing-group-ltd-v-clifton.pdf

In this pdf, the court is told that they suffer from depression, gender dysphoria and PTSD.

NotAGirl · 14/04/2022 16:31

Helleofabore the picture in the article makes it clear

ScreamingMeMe · 14/04/2022 20:55

A sadistic male convict who admitted to killing a prostituted woman to satisfy a “blood fetish” now identifies as transgender and has been transferred to Edna Mahan Women’s Correctional Facility.

Perry Cerf was arrested for the brutal rape and murder of 47-year-old Ecuadoran immigrant Flor Andrade in 2002. Cerf, who now goes by “Michelle Hel-loki Angelina,” was found wearing his victim’s clothing and driving her car. He had also placed his own photograph over hers on Andrade’s driver’s license.

grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/sadistic-killer-with-a-blood-fetish?token=eyJ1c2VyX2lkIjoxMzI1Nzc0MywicG9zdF9pZCI6NTIyMjg3NzAsIl8iOiJVd2hKZCIsImlhdCI6MTY0OTk2NTk4NiwiZXhwIjoxNjQ5OTY5NTg2LCJpc3MiOiJwdWItNjczMDkiLCJzdWIiOiJwb3N0LXJlYWN0aW9uIn0.Pe9nmg73IfIeWEiXDYr2JMUtVzz8VWSLi67huOjXMI8&s=r

ScreamingMeMe · 14/04/2022 22:22

Three Tiyan High School female rugby athletes were injured Saturday by a transgender player from Guam High. In light of the incident, Conrad Kerber, the head coach for both Tiyan Boys and Girls Rugby teams is calling out the league to address the concerns.

www.kuam.com/story/46261367/tiyan-rugby-coach-calls-for-ban-on-transgender-players-after-injuries-at-weekend-match

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 15/04/2022 03:41

A lighter note

twitter post concerning a trans-inclusive nightclub event that was for women- and transwomen only

Hannah/teaforpterosaur supplied the attached screenshot with the wry comment:

"Men are not going to go to the effort of pretending to be trans women to go in women's changing rooms you're being ridiculous"
Men: pretend to be trans women to get in a club night just to brag about being somewhere they weren't supposed to be t.co/lYoPxHwxgk

twitter.com/teaforpterosaur/status/1514535836230078467?t=U-8lDO2HjC7po9IxpUYluQ&s=19

Screenshot text for Screenreaders

Lick Events, Tweet 1 - If you were one of the girls that brought your boyfriend to the club last night and lied about them being trans to get them in - Don't come again. Thanks.

Lick Events, Tweet 2 - you're ruining it for people that are actually trans and you should be ashamed of yourselves - not bragging about it

Interestingly, from Lick's point of view, the men are blameless, and it's all women's fault.

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