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Responses to Scottish Govt GRA consultation now online

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howonearthdidwegethere · 22/08/2018 12:10

www.gov.scot/Topics/Justice/law/17867/gender-recognition-review/review-of-gender-recognition-act-2004-list-of-orga/published-responses-from-organisations

Not sure what the deal is with individual responses. None published. Maybe the SG don't publish them as a matter of course or everyone opted not to have them in the public domain.

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AsAProfessionalFekko · 22/08/2018 12:19

If I had time to read it all I would.

I cherry picked a few and one was by a over enthusiastic group of young people who turned out to be a trans/trans support type group. 'Sounds awesome!' Type comments.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 22/08/2018 12:26

Also picked a few, not found any GC responses yet FFS.

AsAProfessionalFekko · 22/08/2018 12:26

Just read one from a group who promotes 'girls' (yuk) in specific industries.

They have spectacularly missed the point - I wonder how they will feel when they realise that male bodied people are pushing in to the areas that they are trying to promote to 'girls' (and indeed get onto the board of their organisation) and they wont be able to do a damn thing?

AsAProfessionalFekko · 22/08/2018 12:27

Look for religious ones and ones with the word 'critical' in the title.

BetsyM00 · 22/08/2018 12:33

Also worth noting a couple of the gender critical responses have had comments redacted.

The analysis report should be published by the end of the month, with individual responses to follow sometime later. Apparently the delay is due to the need to check each of the 15k+ responses one-by-one. So we can probably expect more censorship.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 22/08/2018 12:39

Can't believe the cocksuckery. Sad.

Wanderabout · 22/08/2018 12:41

Why would GC responses be redacted? Anonymity?

littlbrowndog · 22/08/2018 12:47

Glasgow feminists. Just for ffs.

Nicola Williams fair play for women. Excellent

So far that is all I have read.

Glasgow feminists blah blah blah blah. Ffs

BetsyM00 · 22/08/2018 12:47

Other than for removing personal details such as an address, I was told swear words, incitement of violence, or defamation would be redacted.

But it looks to me to be more than that.

littlbrowndog · 22/08/2018 12:48

I fecking hate my government. HATE THEM

EmpressOfSpartacus · 22/08/2018 12:52

defamation would be redacted.

I wonder what counts as defamation in this context.

Wanderabout · 22/08/2018 12:52

Other than for removing personal details such as an address, I was told swear words, incitement of violence, or defamation would be redacted.

Hmmm well if they are GC groups we will find out if there's been inappropriate censorship because they'll be able to tell us themselves.

That combined with the mystery of the disappearing FOI would be a bit of a scandal, if it has happened.

I do wonder if it's requests for anonymity or individuals' details in examples though.

MountainWitch · 22/08/2018 12:56

The Lesbian Rights Alliance is firmly GC. Which cheered me up a bit after reading by local council's response and that of the Edinburgh Rape Crisis centre, both very accepting of changes to the GRA Sad

I filled this out at length, so I hope it's published.

sociopathsunited · 22/08/2018 12:57

Fuck's sake. A fucking rape crisis centre has agreed. What a load of sexist, pathetic, grovelling twaddle.

sociopathsunited · 22/08/2018 13:00

and Leap Sports Scotland. Kiss goodbye to any hope of sporting success for your girls, folks. The "woke" are here to make sure only boys and men win.

sociopathsunited · 22/08/2018 13:04

Scottish Women's Aid supports self ID.

Shoot me now. Seriously, what is the fucking point????

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 22/08/2018 13:08

A fucking rape crisis centre has agreed

I think Rape Crisis Scotland has a transwoman involved in the organisation somewhere

sociopathsunited · 22/08/2018 13:08

Women's Rape and Sexual Abuse Centre supports self ID

Come and get it boys, traumatised women lined up and waiting, just for you!

Christonabike. Beam me up Scotty, this planet is fucked.

SorryAuntLydia · 22/08/2018 13:09

Critical Sisters I salute you.

littlbrowndog · 22/08/2018 13:09

Cowards cowards cowards

Don’t give 2 flying fucks about women and girls

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 22/08/2018 13:09

Scottish Women's Aid supports self ID

AFAIK a lot of Scottish charities need to be "inclusive" to receive funding

sociopathsunited · 22/08/2018 13:09

Amnesty International.

Amnesty Fucking International believe it's okay to have a woman sharing a cell in prison with a person who retains their male genitalia.

Jeezuswept.

Spikypants · 22/08/2018 13:14

I’m willing to bet that behind closed doors none of these organisations, with the exception perhaps of the witless career feminist handmaidens who work there, support self id. But they will lose vital funding if they are seen to speak out.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 22/08/2018 13:14

Terrifying isn't it, seeing all of these organisations merrily chucking women under the bus with apparently no critical thought whatsoever...

Theinconstantgardener · 22/08/2018 13:20

I had to stop reading . Just too depressing. And frankly losing funding should not be a reason to support such garbage