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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Vast Majority of Feminists & Trans

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WombTing · 05/08/2018 21:27

I was reading through Huda Elmi's, one of the JC9's blog today and her accompanying tweets. I can't link to it, as a new user.

She says in a tweet that the vast majority of feminists don't wish to exclude trans or erode their rights. Her implication is, I think that that the vast majority of feminists are cool with the impending GRA,

I'm going to be honest and say, I don't know the difference between a radical feminist and a common, all garden feminist. As far as I know, I am in the latter camp and don't see myself as being especially radical but I am not happy about the GRA.

Anyway the question I really want to ask is, is it true that the vast majority of feminists don't have concerns about the GRA? I am assuming, from her tweet that she means that if you aren't happy about the GRA, it then you must desire the erosion of trans rights? I was just wondering if there is any evidence that as a feminist, I am in the minority with my beliefs.

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CholloDeNombre · 05/08/2018 23:06

I quite like nuts

littlbrowndog · 05/08/2018 23:08

Nightie rads

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 05/08/2018 23:10

DO NOT LET LANG HELP WITH SAVOURY SNACKS

FUCK KNOWS WHAT SHE DOES WITH A BABY BELL

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 05/08/2018 23:10

Night littlbrowndog

CertainHalfDesertedStreets · 05/08/2018 23:11

On the other hand Paton & Byrne's "Tunnocks" tea cake recipe which I have adapted for "Tunnock's" snowballs are both a huge amount of effort but are spectacular.

At some stage long long after this thread gets deleted, probably December I am going to want to Google that recipe. So can you all remember for me?

Tanith · 05/08/2018 23:11

I never realised you could make your own Jaffa cakes!

Lass did you mean Payton and Byrnes? I've found a BBC recipe just now by Simon Rimmer - I'll get the kids to try it this week (fingers crossed it works out better than their ice cream attempt Grin !

CertainHalfDesertedStreets · 05/08/2018 23:13

I had a homemade Wagon Wheel recently and it BLEW. MY. MIND.

LangCleg · 05/08/2018 23:15

FUCK KNOWS WHAT SHE DOES WITH A BABY BELL

Well, you know the old spy saying!

PencilsInSpace · 05/08/2018 23:16

No, stop with the marmite flavoured wrongage immediately.

Marmite is a very fine spread on either fresh, crusty bread and butter, or on hot buttery toast.

Marmite 'flavoured' anything else is badly wrong. Especially cheese. Stop it.

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 05/08/2018 23:18

Im literally afraid to ask lang

In college i worked at smiths crsips factory one summer

The marmite flavoured crisp section was my favourite

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 05/08/2018 23:19

Well after the 1st week

For the 1st week i couldnt LOOK at a bloody crisp

PencilsInSpace · 05/08/2018 23:22

DO NOT LET LANG HELP WITH SAVOURY SNACKS

Yes I'm realising this is good advice.

Right, off to enjoy some gentlemen's relish (AKA fish marmite) on toast for my supper. Night all x

LangCleg · 05/08/2018 23:26

I am the forum wrong'un with regard to snackage, clearly. You can't discourage me though.

LassWiADelicateAir · 05/08/2018 23:27

Peyton and Byrne.

This book. Also has home made jammy dodger recipe which I haven't tried.

Actually it might have been Felicity Cloake's jaffa cake recipe. The "Tunnock's" tea cake one is P & B's.

Vast Majority of Feminists & Trans
CertainHalfDesertedStreets · 05/08/2018 23:31

How can you object to marmite flavouring - which I grant you is foul - but then enjoy Gentlemen's Relish?

And on FWR. HAVE YOU NO SHAME PENCILS?

PencilsInSpace · 05/08/2018 23:34

HAVE YOU NO SHAME PENCILS

No Grin

It's made from actual fish. None of this 'flavoured' bollox, just pure, concentrated anchovies. who's up for a snog

thebewilderness · 05/08/2018 23:36

Dottierichardson

I disagree. If it is not a political movement for the liberation of women it is not Feminism. It may be a women's rights movement, but Feminism had a definition long before the boys of the backlash changed it to equality for all men.

TallulahWaitingInTheRain · 05/08/2018 23:37

Get thee behind me Peyton

Prestonsflowers · 05/08/2018 23:44

I love Marmite but hate the flavoured crisps.
The only crisp flavour that is allowed is PLAIN

AornisHades · 05/08/2018 23:59

Lang don't listen to the MERFs! Rights for Marmite eating laydeez!!

LaSquirrel · 06/08/2018 00:22

I prefer the Stunning and Brave Salt and Vinegar crisps myself.
And take selfies whilst eating them, yet another Stunning and Brave act.

MrsToddsShortcut · 06/08/2018 00:55

Anchovy Paste! 'It's yummy and makes me feel like I am at a midnight feast at Mallory Towers.

My daughter asked me to buy Marmite rice cakes. They were truly rice cakes of Satan.

FloralBunting · 06/08/2018 01:02

Won't someone think of the salty sweet crunchy goodness of the Frazzles, please? Unsurpassed, imho.

silentcrow · 06/08/2018 01:08

HAVE YOU NO SHAME PENCILS

Are shame pencils what you use when you've lost your pen for the millionth time?

DJLippy · 06/08/2018 02:07

If you think there are no issues with the inclusion of transwomen or the ,movement as a whole then look at these areas

  1. Transwomen in sport - everybody can see that it's blatantly unfair that male bodied people compete against female bodied people.
  2. Transing of children - puberty blockers are untested and DO NOT relieve gender dysphoria according to latest systematic review of all available evidence. Also ROGD. Why are so many young lesbians suddenly 'coming out' as trans.
  3. Hounding of women and the Terf slur. Bomb threats send to women meeting to discuss law changes which would remove their rights - there is no justification for this
  4. Cotton ceiling and lesbians forced to accept male (fully penised) trans women as sexual partners for fear of being labeled a terf and exuded from gay community. There is a word for this. It's called corrective rape.
  5. Transwomen in prisons. Pre-transition rapists are transferred onto the female estate and then sexually assault women. Ditto women's refuges and rape crisis centers
  6. If transwomen are women why do they have such a prominent role in the public face of the movement while the transmen are totally invisible. Seriously where are the transmen? It looks a lot like trans-women retain their male privilege. If a woman got her cock out at work and posted it on the internet would she be treated the same way. I can barely type that sentence because it is TOTALLY RIDICULOUS
  7. Why does the movement want to remove safegaurds that protect women and children. Don't you think it's wierd that the head of the 'charity' which is lobbying the government to allow males into female spaces has (allegedly) been posting messages on their blog (which celebrates exhibitionism) encouraging men to get their dicks out in public toilets and wank.

Those are all areas which there are NO JUSTIFIABLE solutions to. Anybody can see these are all massively problematic. It's late there are probably more.

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