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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Dominic Raab: We must end feminist bigotry

85 replies

abilockhart · 09/07/2018 16:31

"Men are getting a 'raw deal' despite tough equality legislation, Dominic Raab MP writes as he calls for an end to 'feminist bigotry'."

An article by the latest addition to the Conservative cabinet:

www.politicshome.com/news/uk/political-parties/conservative-party/opinion/house-commons/96662/dominic-raab-we-must-end

OP posts:
MIdgebabe · 10/07/2018 18:02

SO men are destructive to themselves as well as to others.
They are also dominate in positions of power

They have had several thousand years of not listening to women and they still haven't fixed their problems

So perhaps they should change their approach, listen to women, put more women in power and then the changes that benefit women , which are about stopping male aggression, would also benefit men directly

sillage · 10/07/2018 18:06

Oh you're a slick one, FullyNotFemale, you sure got us but good yes you did. Smooth.

Men kill men so much that 75% of murder victims are men. Men, stop being violent.

Men are so internally fucked in the head they kill themselves 75% of the suicides (often taking a bunch of innocent people with them when they do). Men, stop being so violent to yourselves and others.

Men are weak, reality-avoiding addicts making up 80% of substance abusers. Men, stop being so violent to yourselves.

Men are violent shits who commit most crime therefore 90% of violent criminals incarcerated are men. Men, stop being so violent.

Men can sleep in parks without getting raped and murdered, making 95% of rough sleepers men because men don't attack homeless men the way they attack homeless women. Men, stop raping homeless women so they can sleep in parks too.

Men are arrogant and think they know everything so 95% of workplace fatalities are men who thought they were more competent they they turned out to be. Men, find your life-saving humility.

R0wantrees · 10/07/2018 18:21

sillage
Have you watched Hannah Gadsby's 'Nanette' ( Netflix special)? Your post chimes with it.

NanaNoodleman · 10/07/2018 18:30

Don’t call people ladies. It makes everyone think instantly you’re a gobshite. I mean, you are, but no point advertising the fact, eh?

AngryAttackKittens · 10/07/2018 19:38

So the Tories are recruiting potential MPs via MRA sites now?

Pratchet · 10/07/2018 19:52

Is that a parody? That is unfucking-believable.

Pratchet · 10/07/2018 19:54

I voted Conservative in the local elections! They can sit on it now. And that is definitely an MP losing a seat. Small majority.

Pratchet · 10/07/2018 19:55

Men have run the world for a sod of a long time. If they're having it crap then they know who to blame.

BlackForestCake · 10/07/2018 19:56

Dominic Raab: feminists are bigots
Woke Twitter: BOOOO!!!
Trans cultists: feminists are bigots and Nazis and should die
Woke Twitter: HOORAY!

CertainHalfDesertedStreets · 10/07/2018 20:02

Don’t call people ladies. It makes everyone think instantly you’re a gobshite. I mean, you are, but no point advertising the fact, eh?

Just this Grin

titchy · 10/07/2018 20:14

And that is definitely an MP losing a seat. Small majority

Raab? His majority is fucking huge.

Bowlofbabelfish · 10/07/2018 20:35

75% of murder victims are women doing the killing of these men? No? Then why is this an argument for women being awful. It’s men killing men.

75% of suicides - that is tragic and needs to be looked at and worked on far more than it is. Men tend to be more ‘effective’ in that they choose more successful and violent means of suicide such as guns, cars etc. Men also tend to suffer more severe mental illness

80% of substance abusers - linked to mental ill health. Services for all users are being cut to the bone. We should all be pressing for better addiction support, it affects all of society. But again this isn’t a ‘women being awful’ issue.

90% of the incarcerated - men commit more crime. I can’t say that’s a reason to feel sorry for them. You commit crime you get locked up yes? Again this isn’t due to women being awful.

95% of rough sleepers - linked to substance abuse, but also because womenCANNOT safely sleep outdoors.

95% of workplace fatalities - again that’s something that needs to be worked on. One is too much. Mainly down to the sex skewing of jobs which means men still do more physical roles, but also men take more risks. This again is not a ‘women being awful’ issue.

Destined to die 6 years earlier on average.

Well as I think we’ve established, we didn’t invent biology. Women are t taking those years off you (it actually increases men’s lifespans to be married. Reduces women’s mind...)

So. Some of these issues are Male driven. Some are societally driven.

NONE of these issues are down to women oppressing men, women being awful to men or systemic matriarchy.

Now if we look the other way, at things like:

Domestic violence (still predominantly male on female)
Rape
Murder of women
Sexual assault
The way society is set up to benefit men.. etc etc. ALL these things are directly men being awful to women.

So I dont follow your argument. Bad shit happens to men, it’s very, very, very rarely women’s actual fault is it? There’s no need for man activism to stop all the weaker sex oppressing you is there?

Pratchet · 10/07/2018 20:39

No, my MP. Majority was decimated last time.

titchy · 10/07/2018 21:01

He got 35,000 votes! 2nd place got less than 12,000. That's a massive bloody majority, not small at all Hmm There is no way E and W would ever return a non-Tory.

Pratchet · 10/07/2018 21:07

Hi I mean my MP. The tories will lose my MP.

titchy · 10/07/2018 21:21

Ah right sorry!

Pratchet · 10/07/2018 21:40

I was very unclear. It's a shame we can't do it to him. Knob.

seafret · 10/07/2018 22:41

What an A grade gaslighting fucker he is.

And of course allowing men to selfID as women in crime stats and court stats etc plays right into his hands.

My DH has severe MH problems as a result of male abuse, this government does nothing to help him and everything to reinforce his shame and self loathing via the degrading benefits system and useless NHS.

Nor do they help homeless men many of whom are mentally ill. The government want to change that? Go right ahead... they have the power. I would welcome more support for men who are victims of male toxicity. it is part of breaking the cycle of abuse.

But of course they don't actually want to do that - just use fake concern about poor men as an excuse to have a go at evil, unfair, domineering, selfish women.

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BettyFloop · 10/07/2018 23:12

I would welcome more support for men who are victims of male toxicity. it is part of breaking the cycle of abuse.

But of course they don't actually want to do that - just use fake concern about poor men as an excuse to have a go at evil, unfair, domineering, selfish women.

Very much this.

And I wish Mr Raab C Nesbitt a lot of luck in pleading his "feminists are all bigots" message to the increasing numbers of women are now taking no shit (thanks Mumsnet Wink)

HelenaDove · 11/07/2018 00:13

A bonfire of the regulations eh? Because that has already worked out well for tenants Hmm

AssassinatedBeauty · 11/07/2018 00:23

Fucking hell that's scary. And Theresa May has no qualms about appointing him.

GardenGeek · 11/07/2018 00:30

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