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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Is there a new Spartacus thread? 18/6/18

119 replies

MyRelationshipIsWeird · 18/06/2018 13:09

If not here goes....

(If there is can someone link for me please? Have searched to no avail.)

I am Spartacus.

I won’t stand by and watch gender critical feminists be thrown under the bus to pander to a very vocal minority who wish to rewrite biology, feminism and common sense.

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SwearyG · 19/06/2018 09:11

I am Spartacus
I support the rights of women and girls
Men do not belong in female spaces
A woman cannot have a penis
I am not afraid to speak the truth.

Feminism has to centre females. The old fashioned cunty ones. And one of the central points has to be women’s ability to say no.

No. I will not say a man can become a woman.
No. I will not call a man a lesbian.
No. I will not open up our hard won spaces to men, even if they pretend they are women.
No. I will not be quiet about this.

I am Spartacus

WhoWants2Know · 19/06/2018 09:16

I haven't posted in one of these threads before, but I'm Spartacus.

MyRelationshipIsWeird · 19/06/2018 09:52

Welcome Spartacii new and old!

What’s the collective noun for a bunch of GC feminists then? I’m sure there will be some choice suggestions from certain posters!

I’m thinking we go along the line of storks - a mustering - or perhaps pheasants - a bouquet 💐 or OF warren.

There’s an interesting list here, may have to co opt some of these for other groups! Wink

List of animal collective pronouns

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MyRelationshipIsWeird · 19/06/2018 09:54

Sorry list link should say nouns! Blush

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MyRelationshipIsWeird · 19/06/2018 09:55

Am flabbergasted to read that HopePink has been banned from Twitter for misgendering himself/herself. How is that even possible?. Wtf?! Surely their whole point is that you are whatever you say you are?

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Norther · 19/06/2018 10:09

I am Spartacus.

Weezol · 19/06/2018 10:15

I think our current collective noun would be a 'rage'.

ToeToToe · 19/06/2018 10:29

A rage of Spartacii. Grin

ErrolTheDragon · 19/06/2018 11:00

I don't think our numbers are dwindling at all

New posters finding MN, lurkers delurking in solidarity, and a few former 'regular posters' I'd not seen for a while quietly reappearing.

MyRelationshipIsWeird · 19/06/2018 11:12

It is heartening to see so many delurkers isn’t it. And there are so many more in RL - when you pluck up the courage to speak about it you realise that the pervading view of the twitterati is not representative at all of most adults. Obviously some young people who get their ideas from YouTube have been indoctrinated, but that’s because they don’t have the life experience to see the issues with this ideology. I’m hopeful that with time it will all be ironed out, it’s just a question of how many women and girls have to be disadvantaged in the meantime. Sad

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StepBackNow · 19/06/2018 11:25

Still Spartacus, through many name changes. Biology is biology. No amount of stamping and wailing will alter that.

madja · 19/06/2018 11:28

Oooh, I like that.
A rage of Spartacii. Grin

Whattheactualfuckmate · 19/06/2018 11:50

I’m Spartacus.

You can not change your chromosome.

I will not lie or gaslight my children

ElfrideSwancourt · 19/06/2018 12:46

I am Spartacus
And yes @Poppyred85 I've had a very similar journey to you (can we use the j word??)

I'd love to be part of a rage of Spartaci!

FloralBunting · 19/06/2018 17:04

I am Spartacus and so are my daughters. Gender is a cultural construct, as genuinely innate as neck ties on a preacher.
I live 'as a woman' by virtue of going about my daily business in possession of a vagina that I have had since I was born.

pombear · 20/06/2018 17:55

To my work colleague who, in a meeting, said 'I'm Spartacus' to something completely non-related to women's rights, but in a room full of females.

I have a feeling you and I are here. It's not something that's said very often in any other context.

Wink hello!

It's like an unspoken code of recognition Smile

MsSensibleWay · 20/06/2018 18:01

I'm spartacus. Recently delurked. I'm not a great deep thinker or very eloquent so don't get too involved in discussions.
Just checking in to show support!

Yddraigoldragon · 20/06/2018 18:02

Also Spartacus. Sex is a protected characteristic.

Have you all seen the womens place campaign to force councils etc to correct their diversity policy statements? So many used gender! There is a spreadsheet of doom out there somewhere.

Would be interesting to check policies of some of the big plc’s I think, I would imagine there are some errors there too.

:ponders:

CarpeVitam · 20/06/2018 18:04

I am still Spartacus!

QuizteamBleakley · 20/06/2018 18:06

I'm Spartacus. Delurked fully and totally supporting the Spartacus movement.

stealthsquirrelnutkin · 20/06/2018 19:15

I am Spartacus.
Sex is decided at conception and cannot be changed.
Women and girls must be allowed to set boundaries, and those boundaries must be respected.
Men must not be allowed to identify their way into the sex segregated spaces that have been created for the protection of females.
Lesbians do not do dick!

Pacers · 20/06/2018 19:21

I have been reading here for a long time, but have joined to add my voice.

Quietly Spartacusing about my daily business in gratitude to the excellent women here who helped open my eyes.

I am Spartacus.

thebewilderness · 21/06/2018 02:50

Happy Spartacus Wednesday early Thursday morning here on Mumsnet where the nightly troll invasion continues.

ElliePhantW33 · 21/06/2018 03:34

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womanformallyknownaswoman · 21/06/2018 04:09

Concern trolling is the regular m.o. here from those wanting attention who like to trash women's rights and their spaces - it says more about them that they have the compulsion to engage in those tactics - they know no limits, getting off on women's distress - there's a lot of them around - pretty untoward behaviour

I am Sparta-patroll

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