James O'Brien now

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James is going to be discussing trans issues today on LBC. His show is on now - not sure what time the segment will start, but should be good!

I feel for Katelyn but why aren't we campaigning for better NHS treatment for transgender people so that they aren't in the position of waiting for years for treatment. I would support that. Any reasonable person would.

I told the researcher that I wanted to talk about self ID in terms of the GRC, and self ID that's already here (in terms of equality law.).

Because the two were being conflated. A GRC will make no difference to letting men change in women's locker rooms at the swimming pool.

She wasn't interested, I could tell, immediately.

if James is as genuinely concerned and interested in this debate as he makes out

My suspicion is that JOB know where he needs to stand on this issue as a virtue signalling brocialist but is slightly worried he'll turn out to have been wrong. So we get all that wringing his hands supposedly going through agonies of uncertainty.

To my mind it's just a hedge to enable him to claim to have been sort of on the other side all along should the need arise.

It won't downhill didn't it? I am happy that my previous view of JOB as an stupid twat is correct.

sweary you were amazing.

My suspicion is that JOB know where he needs to stand on this issue as a virtue signalling brocialist but is slightly worried he'll turn out to have been wrong. So we get all that wringing his hands supposedly going through agonies of uncertainty.

Oh my god yes, that is exactly what he is doing - he is hedging his bets!

Just caught the very end and tuned in to what sounded like listening to two lovers whispering sweet nothings to one another.

(JOB and male to female transexual. )

Has he not noticed he is treating those male guests as if they are children and not up robust questioning? How patronising his bias is sounding.

Yep.

He practically had a hard on for all those poor scared TIMS........but when a woman spoke about those exact same fears she was dismissed.

Apparently if women are frightened of male violence that makes us evil man hating witches who are putting men down NAMALT etc etc

If a bloke in a dress is frightened of male violence that makes them poor brave souls who need support.

It's the Ralf Little "turn-about turn" - as shown with his response to Jennifer James's petition.

He pretends to be a reasonable feminist, listening to women - but quickly springs back to the lefty dude-bro misogyny.

I hope he was peak-trans'ed a little bit. He didn't dismiss Hannah as rudely as he did Posie.

But it is infuriating that women are routinely disbelieved about fear of sexual assault from men - asked about "the numbers" - yet he believed the transwoman's fear of using the mens with all simpering, sympathetic tones, and no need to ask for the "numbers" at all.

O'Brien is difficult to debate with because he's as slippery as a fucking eel

Of course he thinks he wins because of the might of his vast intellect🙄

Has he not noticed he is treating those male guests as if they are children and not up robust questioning? How patronising his bias is sounding

It's like when Lily Madigan has been on telly though - these people are always treated like kids who mustnt be questioned.

Yes, his hypocrisy when it comes to trans women fearing violence from men compared to women fearing violence from men is astounding!

The irony - don't want hormonal breasts in male changing roooms.

JOB was so busy trying to imagine how uncomfortable he would feel stood next to a man growing breasts that he forgot the startlingly obvious question: why is it ok for a Penis in the female changing room then?

I don't think breasts are implicated in any sexual assaults - a penis on the other hand - is often present during a sexual assault.

Breasts -threatening ?

This really is about people like JOB getting men they don't understand out of their personal areas and moving then to female areas - bigots I think James calls them?

that women are routinely disbelieved about fear of sexual assault from men - asked about "the numbers" - yet he believed the transwoman's fear of using the mens with all simpering, sympathetic tones, and no need to ask for the "numbers" at all. yes this, I agree with this, but I believe most people listening can see this now

Makes me respect Julia HB even more, which is not a position I thought I'd be taking a couple of years ago.

Ooooh Paris Lees is tweeting about self id - Paris is gonna be pissed with James for wobbling over this!

She did not bully but did not hold back with LM at all - just plain questioning on the "logic".

It's the same old fucking story.

Women are disbelieved, asked to prove everything, not taken seriously.

Men- instantly believed, no proof needed, taken v seriously.

I wonder if the list of questions by RRC would help him...

Oh my god yes, that is exactly what he is doing - he is hedging his bets!

Of course he is, the wanker.

Sweary, you were wonderful. Someone mentioned moving the Overton Window on another thread and you and Amy have double-handedly done just that. All by yourselves. You are completely brilliant and inspirational and I take my hat off to you.

I think JOB would take it very ill indeed were he asked difficult questions by a female academic.

Well done Sweary.

Doesn't really matter that JOB is on the fence, or even if he is for self-id. I firmly believe most people think it is madness once they understand it. Which is why it needs to be debated.

nauticant... He has said that he is a feminist, wants to carry on talking and is currently confused. I have listened to his needs and obviously want to help him!

Hannah that sounds incredibly brilliant. be proud, very very proud and thank you so much. Cant wait to actually hear it.

Oh, I missed this. Does anyone know where I can listen to it? Maybe someone has recorded it? Sounds fantastic- well done Sweary.