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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Bluestocking lock in!

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QuentinSummers · 29/01/2018 22:00

Posted a whole thing on the last thread and it was locked!

Last thread here
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3062013-The-Bluestocking-is-open-for-business
Here's my post replying to Moth
Thats an interesting article moth. Best not on the board or MRAs would be all over it!
I was wondering today, hopefully, if the news about darts getting rid of the girls means the overton window is shifting and maybe p0rn will become less acceptable?
If not all this hooha about F1 girls and the presidents club is just tinkering on the edges.

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QuentinSummers · 13/04/2018 19:04

WineGin

I'm still feeling sad they hid the board.

Women know your place.

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AnitaLovesVictor · 13/04/2018 19:04

Yay! Cheers everyone Wine

Happy Friday. Very please for Maria MacLachlan. That must have been an awful experience - but she got a conviction.

So I'll drink a toast to Maria. Wine

Ereshkigal · 13/04/2018 19:06

To Maria! Wine

Freshlylaidterf · 13/04/2018 19:11

I'm still feeling sad they hid the board.
Women know your place

Me too. But on the plus sideWineto Maria.
Also managed to peak trans my physio today. Hes a really good man. He was shocked about all this SI stuff, had no idea. He said he will sign the petition and hopefully get others to sign too. Nearly 10000 ! Happy friday ! Wine

terryleather · 13/04/2018 19:38

Yup a glass for Maria!

Not sure if she prefers Wineor Ginbut the verdict is some positive news in the face of so much SadAngryConfused

Feeling really disillusioned with everything at the moment - I'm not very good at playing nice so I feel like I should keep off the boards but then I get Angry at the self censoring, so I shall just hang out in the pub with all you lovely women and all the lovely booze.

Cheers m'dears!

Rufustherenegadereindeer1 · 13/04/2018 21:26

So Maria won the court case then? Thats good news

AnitaLovesVictor · 13/04/2018 21:42

She sure did! (Although you wouldn't think so - the convicted assaulter is somehow also claiming victory Confused ) But you can't help the delusional.

SpringNowPlease2018 · 17/04/2018 19:28

Proof that I hang out here too much

Autocorrect just changed "there" to "theorem" Grin

AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 17/04/2018 20:00

Passes Gin all round

It's been a hell of a day.

IW madness. Julia whatsithername has been an unexpected delight

James Kirkup - liking him lots. Might even consider a Spectator sub, I listen to the podcast but Fraser Nelson's voice - oh Lordy, it's a crime against humanity

Trousersdontmakemeaman · 17/04/2018 20:02

It's actually been a daily treat for a while now.

Waddlelikeapenguin · 17/04/2018 21:54

I dont feel qualified to be here but I need somewhere to say that I filled in feedback for the edinburgh science festival today & they asked my gender Confused the science fucking festival! They probably regret the comment box now Grin

Gin for all GinGinGin

SpringNowPlease2018 · 17/04/2018 22:23

Waddle, the only qualifications are
a) admire my dire singing
b) admire my bottle of Bombay Sapphire

Grin

That's awful. Did they have a biological sex and gender question?

I had to fill in forms for training at work and it was "do you feel that your gender aligns with your biological sex" or something. Apart from anything else, it had as much relevance for the training as asking me "do you prefer deep house or acid house".

Waddlelikeapenguin · 17/04/2018 23:00

spring you sing beautifully Grin i am tone deaf

It was male/female/other blah blah (cant remember)/none or prefer not to say on the more depressing/up side it was an appallingly written feedback survey in other ways too Grin survey monkey is sooooo easy to use & still they will generate fairly useless data Confused

I have an appointment with my msp next week & am worried i will either mumble incoherently or rant...

SpringNowPlease2018 · 17/04/2018 23:05

Oh I'll be interested to know how the appointment goes

My MP doesn't want to talk about it but he's Tory and I get the impression, from MN, that they are stopping to think....!

Waddlelikeapenguin · 18/04/2018 00:44

He's snp so there's no hope really...

QuentinSummers · 18/04/2018 06:33

Hello waddle!
You will be fine with your MSP! Good on you for going. I haven't spoken to mine. I am not a fan - there is no way I would get a straight answer.

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SpringNowPlease2018 · 18/04/2018 20:43

There's a couple of threads going on at the moment that I barely understand - re MN, trans issues, people addressing things and IP addresses.

I guess I better I have a drink....!

QuentinSummers · 18/04/2018 20:56

It's all drama llama imo

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IfyouseeRitaMoreno · 18/04/2018 20:58

Did someone say IP addresses?! Where where? Where’s the thread?!

UpstartCrow · 18/04/2018 21:02

@IfyouseeRitaMoreno Its the ''The MNHQ Moderation team'' thread in feminist chat.

IfyouseeRitaMoreno · 18/04/2018 21:03

Thanks Crow!

SpringNowPlease2018 · 18/04/2018 21:27

Oh sorry didn't mean to cause alarm

Think the poster meant addressing issues anyway....what a muddle.

BeUpStanding · 19/04/2018 01:51

So I spent this eve in a rl pub with a dear old friend who I haven't seen for over a year. He's a gay man. We spent hours talking about the transgender debate. Hours. It was brilliant - deep, nuanced, relevant, challenging, considered. Towards the end of the night he asked me if I would go to prison to defend the biological definition of woman (and man)... and I was surprised to find myself saying yes. I would.

So, , pass the gin.

SpringNowPlease2018 · 19/04/2018 11:05

BeUpStanding - and what did he think of it all?

SpringNowPlease2018 · 19/04/2018 11:11

random query

I have had two female contacts telling me about how great Jordan Peterson is

I tried to look him up but all I can hear is "blah blah"...and then if I look up other people's summaries it's "blah lobster" and they seem to be angry with him but won't say why

Then today an article appeared saying he has loads of male fans - also talks about lobsters and standing up straight etc

can anyone tell me what his message is other than "blah"? I saw the interview with Cathy Newman and didn't get much from that either. It may be because all the academic language has lost me - neo this, post that....