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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Men who parade how "feminist" they are but who can fuck right off...

416 replies

ArcheryAnnie · 03/03/2015 23:20

...as they don't actually want to listen to women who disagree with them in any way.

I am not including common-or-garden arseholes here, as the list would be a billion posts long and the internet would explode. I am talking about the kind of man who writes a long, handwringing article in the Guardian about how we should all listen to feminists more, but then deletes most of the comments from actual feminists that are posted on it.

The two currently at the top of my very long List are:
Ally Fogg
Owen Jones

Nominations, please.

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ArcheryAnnie · 09/03/2015 18:25

rivetingrosie I'd be very grateful for the Planet Fitness links, if you have them to hand.

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FloraFox · 09/03/2015 18:45

AA

gendertrender.wordpress.com

FloraFox · 09/03/2015 18:46

If you scroll about half way through the comments, you'll see details of the person concerned.

PuffinsAreFictitious · 09/03/2015 18:50

Oh god.... the planet fitness awfulness...

He (and he calls himself a male) is not TG or TW. He is a cross dressing sissy (his own title) and a male slut-in-training (his own description)

He also has a fetish for women who work out, and messages them apropos of nothing and asks to pee on them.

HermioneWeasley · 09/03/2015 19:04

I expected my post to be deleted. I shouldn't have had the rant as I think the points I made before the rant were valid, but as it stood it was offensive and I apologise to those who were offended.

FuckOffGroundhog · 09/03/2015 19:35

TERF.

How many actual women in this world claim to be radical feminists anyway? So why is TERF, a word synonymous with "transphobic" being used to label people? Men, actual transphobic people, people who are not even slightly of the feminists bent are all suddenly "trans exclusive RADICAL FEMINISTS".

Seems to me like it's just a bullshit word for people who hate radical feminism and want to tar it as hateful and give it a bad name because it queries their ideas of gender.

My feminism has nothing to do with people who have penises. I'm not going to label myself TERF because my feminism isn't about them.

I think places like Women's Aid and women's prisons should probably be open to transmen because they are socalised as women and are at significant risk from men while not being a significant risk to women. But I also understand that they probably won't wish to be welcome in those places. So I don't see myself as trans exclusive. I am penis exclusive though.

TheBlackRider · 09/03/2015 19:48

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EhricLovesTheBhrothers · 09/03/2015 20:12

Do you think some over zealous employee got a bit ban happy and acted in fear of being sued?
Whereas it's fine to discriminate against pregnant and Muslim women because they aren't so likely to sue as a man? Hmm

FuckOffGroundhog · 09/03/2015 20:16

Laws regarding women and bodily autonomy are quickly slipping away in America ehric. Laws regarding trans women people's rights are very much inn the news. It's probably not an inaccurate assumption that they will get in a lot more trouble discriminating against a woman than a man.

PuffinsAreFictitious · 09/03/2015 20:19

TBR... it's tempting when getting into these discussions to quote the Cheshire Cat from the Disney film.

TheBlackRider · 09/03/2015 20:34

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FuckOffGroundhog · 09/03/2015 20:43

It's probably not an inaccurate assumption that they will get in a lot more trouble discriminating against a woman than a man.

Swap that.

EhricLovesTheBhrothers · 09/03/2015 20:44

I assumed groundhog!

FuckOffGroundhog · 09/03/2015 20:57

Well TRB you had a transwoman call Stavvers (who I am not the biggest fan of anyway) a bitch last month... and then when the tw was called a misogynist for using the word, she clamed that was misogyny because she is a woman and should be able to use the word and take it back.

Then you had Stavvers defend the transwoman's right to call her a bitch because Stavvers is a numpty.

HermioneWeasley · 09/03/2015 21:25

I have only heard Stavvers referenced on here, but she sounds like a loon. Unfortunately she has a lot of twitter followers I think, so an influential loon

FuckOffGroundhog · 09/03/2015 21:39

I try and not be horrible about other women, and I try really hard not to hate on other feminist but she's my exception to the rule.

Cariad007 · 09/03/2015 22:14

Oh Stavvers, so so predictable as usual...

twitter.com/stavvers/status/574696582353960961

ArcheryAnnie · 10/03/2015 08:14

One of the many ironies in all this is that stavvers is apparently misgendering Carlotta, who from the available evidence self-identifies as male.

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pand0raslunchb0x · 10/03/2015 09:52

I would like to nominate my ex boss and Andrew Neil. An interviewer / presenter / journalist should be completely neutral and consistent in their style and delivery. He should be made to step down from his role in media / TV for his beligerent sexist attitude and behaviour.

Politics is rife with boys / gentleman's only types and ideologies that flourish with purpose for keeping women in certain, lower paid jobs and out of male dominated clubs and industries. Golf is a prime archaic example (Gentleman Only Ladies Forbidden) think I might go and buy myself a set of golf clubs.

FuckOffGroundhog · 10/03/2015 09:55

So I guess she doesn't mind the harassing of born pregnant women or women who wear hijab (and who probably couldn't use they same gym changing room as someone with a penis anyway)

Cariad007 · 10/03/2015 09:55

Is it Andrew Neil who Private Eye post a photo of at any given opportunity? One of him with a much younger asian woman?

pand0raslunchb0x · 10/03/2015 10:49

Yes that's him. With a white vest, a baseball cap and an African American lady next to him. If you watch his Sunday politics show on you tube with Natalie Bennett (she did perform awfully but just concentrate on his style and delivery) then compare it to Nigel Farages interview - notice how different he treats Natalie? Vile.

FloraFox · 10/03/2015 12:38

I wonder how stavvers et al feel about this man appropriating Eastern European identities. He writes his FB page in awful cod-Polish accent ("I dentz nekkid") but on his TL says he has a PhD and was born in Michigan.

FuckOffGroundhog · 10/03/2015 14:53

Yes, but if he feels Polish

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