*SPOILERS* Onyx Storm Chat Thread *SPOILERS*

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I'd like to start a thread for those who have finished reading Onyx Storm and want to chat about it all- as such THIS THREAD WILL INCLUDE SPOILERS.

Do not read this thread if you don't want spoilers relating to Fourth Wing, Iron Flame and/or Onyx Storm!!!

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This should be long enough I'm hoping to hide any spoilers from anyone who accidentally clicks through!

I’m going to ask it straight out, who do you think the new ‘brother’ is?

Morning all, so I finished Onyx Storm two nights ago and I've gone down an absolute TikTok hole of fan theories about the book ending!!

I can't believe how some people read, I find their "active reading" style so impressive and they pick up on so many subtle clues!

I saw one TikTok user with a theory about who Theophanie may be and I've seen several theories around who "the brother" might be and what happened in that 12 hours and how it came about!

If anyone wants to chat the fan theories please shout- I also don't want to ruin it for anyone by chatting other people's theories if others don't want to delve that deep!

I've never started a Spoilers thread before and I'm somewhat nervous 🙂 I don't want to ruin anything for anyone!!!

It's got to Garrick right? That's why Imogen is so sad?

So personally, when I read it, I wondered if it was Bhodi.

I feel like there's a good argument for it- he basically said he would stick to Xaden no matter what, and had no desire to be on the throne in Xadens stead.
There's also the Imogen's POV where he's seen retching towards the end of the book which could be a reaction to what he's just done ie draw power from the Earth!!!

What do you think?

I've seen 2 other theories on tiktok, both of which could hold water though!!!

1. Aaric- with his precog would he be willing to turn if he could see that it was the outcome that would lead to them being able to take the Venin down from within

1. Liam- they "buried the bodies'- but you're always meant to burn the bodies for Malek! Also he appeared to Violet during her torture and we know she's a dream walker so could she have been in his unconscious?

I might have to go back and look a bit but is she not sad because Quinn is gone and Xaden is completely gone and she knows what's just gone down over the last 12 hours?

But also, could def also be Garrick!!!

I thought it might be Bhodi but I probably need to read it again!

I saw a theory that Theophanie is Lyra of the first 6.

The lady gave a few reasons why she thought it may be Lyra, including one of the epigraphs where it was noted that Lyra thought that the ability to raise wards should be available to everyone and it had cost her everything (or some similar such wording).

Add to that Theophanie maybe being from Morraine (theory stems from the mention of rubies- the current Lady of Morraine wearing ruby necklace and earrings and Theophanie wearing or having rubies) and Lyra is from Morraine which we know because of an epigraph noting "Journal of Lyra of Morraine".....it was definitely an interesting take!!!

Also I can't vouch for how good it may or may not be, but someone has written a Fanfic Fourth Wing from Xadens POV which is available on AO3 it's by a user called belle_beebee and it's called "Xaden POV: Fourth Wing"

On good reads it's been rated 863 times and has a rating of 4.47 so I'm definitely going to give it a bash!

Found it...
That's my productivity out of the window!!

I'm on a flight in Saturday so I have that and Manacled that I'm going to put on my Kindle to read!

Oooh I'd not heard of Manacled ..... another one to add to the list!
TBH I've not read fanfic since my Twilight days 😂

There is an official chapter from Rebecca on her webpage. 2 separate chapters actually. Both are fab!

Now, in to spoilers….

first of all….WHAT DID IMOGEN DO?!!!!!

Second, I think it’s Bodhi, because he spent the entire book chaffing against the leash. He specially said he doesn’t want to rule and Xaden kept grooming him to take over

here’s the bonus content

I've not read Manacled (it's Harry Potter fanfic), however it's meant to be really dark and covers some very triggering topics but it's really popular in the fanfic world.

I've actually ever read fanfic but it was a friend of mine who sent me a copy of Manacled and said it was genuinely excellent, emotionally hard to read but excellent.

These chapters are published in my copies of the books as I just bought them pre Christmas - so the bonus chapters are included in the reprints- it does make me hope she may do a couple bonus chapters for Onyx Storm too though!

Imogen wiped Violet's memory of the wedding I assume. Or are you talking about the transmutation?

It being Bhodi would make sense of him marrying Violet so she can rule for them.

Imogen wiped Violets memories, but how many memories? Just the wedding, memories of xaden being venin in the last book so she can’t be implicated?

I think the brother must be Bodhi or Garrick, Garrick told Imogen he was pretty much burnt out, Imogen would be especially upset as she’s in love with him.

I think Violets second signet is more than just dream walking, there were several times when she seemed to put her thoughts into peoples heads whilst talking and they finished her sentences. Although I’m starting to think I’m imaging that as no one’s else on tik tok has mentioned that, that I’ve seen.

I assumed Imogen wiped Violet's memory - perhaps becuase of how Xaden looked? There was some reference to how he'd changed a litter earlier....
I agree with is being Bhodi and that Xaden married Violet so she could rule in his name.

Finished this the other day. I think the new brother may be Ridoc as he got allot of coverage in onyx storm (so much so I thought he was doomed to die) or Garrick as Garrick was reaching burnout with all the running around so maybe needed to tap into the earth to do something really important. I think they wiped violets memory as they know a way to heal the venin because of Andarna. I also wonder what bhodis second signet might be.

I have heard somewhere that Ridoc stays safe. Nothing happens to him

I'm starting on the audiobook tonight as it just arrived in my libraries Libby. I can't wait. I will be back!

Finished it today. It just seems too obvious for either Garrick or Bodhi to be the new brother as Xaden already thinks of them as his brothers anyway?

I'm thinking that Violet requested Imogen wipe her memory to somehow protect Andarna?

Saw an interesting theory just now that Andarna manipulated time (like she could when she was still a feather tail) to compress all her learning with the Irids into just the space of a few weeks (in Continent time).

Just realised my last paragraph reads like absolute gobbledegook unless you know.

No I get it. I’ve read that theory too. Would explain why Andarna has come back so quickly

I assumed the brother was Jack Barlowe but I must admit that as I listen to the books on audible, I do sometimes get distracted and miss things!

You know, I really dislike the frantic WordSoup that RY subjects us to in the final chapters. It's really irritating having to constantly flip back and forth double checking names and who is their dragon. And it's just so.......jumbled!